Patrick Colbert born about 1845

[Poppyarchie]

Hi - I am searching for the birth record of Patrick Colbert born between 1844 and 1849 (according to England censuses), and also for the births and marriage of his parents.
On 1911 census he says he was born in what looks like "Bonmarn Waterford" which I take to be Bonmahon? He married in an RC church in London in 1870 - register says his father is Patrick, deceased farm labourer.
His mother Margaret, born about 1814, lived with Patrick until her death in 1889. I have a possible marriage for Margaret Condon marrying Patrick Colebert in 1843 in Kilbehenny, Ireland, Diocese Cashel and Emly.
I can't find Patrick, his father Patrick, or Margaret on the 1851 or 1861 England Census, so don't know when they left Ireland.
I'd be very grateful for any help - I've been really struggling with searching Irish records!

[Maggsie]

Hi,
It's Bunmahon....this is the map
https://www.bing.com/maps?q=Bunmahon&satid=id.sid%3A2377ff48-99a1-5010-2a75-ffad3d5d522c
Maggsie

[Kiltaglassan]

Also known as Bonmahon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunmahon

Here'a a much better map to see it via the townland of Ballynasissala.
https://www.townlands.ie/waterford/decies-without-drum/monksland/knockmahon/ballynasissala/

Also via OpenStreetMap
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5671764#map=15/52.1401/-7.3619

[Wexflyer]

Looks like OP needs to join RootsIreland!
They have his man baptized in Carrick-on-Suir in 1841, with an address of (parish of) Stradbally.
Bunmahon would have been the nearest large village to parts of Stradbally in the 1840s - when Bunmahon was a mining village of about 2,000 people.
However, I can't see that baptism myself.

[Poppyarchie]

Thanks for your reply. I've made a note of the details and hopefully it will move me forward. I've just looked at Roots Ireland and unfortunately I just can't make the pennies stretch to another paid-for site, what with ancestry worldwide for ancestors in UK, US, Canada and Australia - it's sad but maybe one day I'll be rich enough to look for the very few Irish ancestors I have too!

[Wexflyer]

Formerly, Rootsireland had an introductory offer of a few free searches/results - do they still offer that?
In any case, you could try
Waterford Heritage
Michael O'Connor, Genealogy Centre, Jenkins Lane, Waterford.
Email: waterfordheritage@icloud.com

[Wexflyer]

If OP has Ancestry, have you looked for baptisms around 1841 in Carrick-on-Suir or Stradbally?
You know you can restrict searches to just the Catholic parish registers collection, and a specific diocese, right?

[Poppyarchie]

Many thanks - I've found a possible baptism on Ancestry, the Carrick-on-Suir one! It's in 1841, parents Patrick Colbert and Margaret Sheehan, in Tipperary, Carrick-on-Suir, Ireland, Diocese of Waterford and Lismore. It's a bit early, but census ages are notoriously inaccurate sometimes!  It gives me something to work with anyway.
Please forgive my ignorance but why did you suggest I contact Waterford Heritage's
Michael O'Connor - does the genealogy center help with tracing ancestors?
BTW Roots Ireland are not offering free searches, but they do have a 24-hour subscription for £13 which I will try - I'll gather together all my Irish people from various family trees and have a blitz!
Thank you for your help today, you've moved me forward a bit and made my brick wall seem less formidable.

[Wexflyer]

Many thanks - I've found a possible baptism on Ancestry, the Carrick-on-Suir one! It's in 1841, parents Patrick Colbert and Margaret Sheehan, in Tipperary, Carrick-on-Suir, Ireland, Diocese of Waterford and Lismore.
Please forgive my ignorance but why did you suggest I contact Waterford Heritage's
Michael O'Connor - does the genealogy center help with tracing ancestors?

Yes, that is the baptism that RootsIreland pointed to - but with a different surname for the mother. I can't see the baptism that RI list on the original record, on the date they give.  Have you checked the original, available free to view on the NLI website? What date do Ancestry give?

RootsIreland work via local centers, and Waterford Heritage is their local center for Waterford. I was pointing to them to contact if the discrepancy on finding the baptism in the original record persists.