Trennick House & Boscawen Park, Truro, Cornwall

[ppmint]

I'm looking for information about Trennick House and Boscawen Park in Truro, Cornwall. My Bate relatives owned the properties until the early 1800s, prior to migrating to Canada.

[Ruskie]

What specific information are you looking for?

Looks like Boscawen Park is a cricket ground:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boscawen_Park

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17.26108991939665&lat=50.25362&lon=-5.03964&layers=168&right=ESRIWorld

There’s a school called Trennick House, a road called Trennick Lane, a Trennick Mill, Trennick farm …

There is this, but I have no idea if it is your Trennick House - it is quite close to Boscawen Park if that is of any relevance to your search:

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17.586993215605013&lat=50.25711&lon=-5.03548&layers=168&right=ESRIWorld

Maps are somewhat later than when your family lived there.

Did you get these addresses off a census or other record?

[Ruskie]

Presumably you have googled these names? I tried “William Bate” Trennick and got a few results, some related to people in Canada.

[ShaunJ]

Trennick House was advertised to be let in July 1833 (it opened as a school for young ladies the following year).

See the Royal Cornwall Gazette of 27 July 1833, page 3

[ppmint]

Thanks for your responses Ruskie and ShaunJ: Those maps are awesome! I like how old maps are side-by-side arial photos. Yes, I have Googled for information but haven't found much. Perhaps I'm not using the correct search terms.

I am a descendant of William Bate. I know that several generations of Bates lived at Trennick in the late 1700-early 1800s. I think he may have owned Boscawen Park as well. He owned Trennick Mill, and was landlord at the Blue Anchor Pub by 1777 at least. His son Charles took over Trennick then sold it in 1821 - or at least it was up for sale in 1821. I don't know who bought it.

Henry Newell Bate, maltster, took over Bate & Conn, I think. He moved to Canada in 1833. He and Henry Conn, who'd remarried a few months earlier, dissolved the business in July 1833.

The information I have is like a few pieces of a puzzle. I was hoping to find a history of Trennick and the brewery. I've seen it written that the Blue Anchor Pub is the oldest in Britain and wonder how long Bates owned it. We've traced the family back to the 1500s in Blisland, Cornwall.

[maddys52]

 I was hoping to find a history of Trennick and the brewery. I've seen it written that the Blue Anchor Pub is the oldest in Britain and wonder how long Bates owned it.

That's a big call! And I'm sure there are others on here more knowledgable about British pubs and their history, but it doesn't seem to make the list of the oldest in Britain if you google.

There is a "Blue Anchor" in Helston which claims to be one of the "oldest original inns"
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/famous-pub-blue-anchor-helston-3964218

and this blog says the brewery at the Blue Anchor in Helston is "perhaps the oldest private brewery"
https://historicalromanceuk.blogspot.com/2010/05/blue-anchor.html

However, they are talking about Helston - some 18 miles from Trennick. Is this where BATE owned the inn?

[ppmint]

The only information I have is from someone who wrote up a history for William Bate. It looks like it was taken from commercial directories for 1777 and 1781. The writeup says simply that he was "landord of the Blue Anchor in Truro" those years. So I don't know if that was for the pub in Helston or perhaps a different pub by the same name in Truro. He lived in Truro at the time. According to a commercial directory, the Bate & Conn Brewery was an entity in 1783. I haven't seen the directory entries though.

Thanks for the link to Historical Romance UK. I hadn't seen that site.