Severn or Severns, Birkin link help.

[shadowwind2112]

Hello there, a bit of a tricky one, but upon investigating the following,

"Hilda Mary Severn
B:11 Aug 1904 Codnor Park, Derbyshire, England.

D:16 Mar 1984 39 Middleton Avenue, Codnor, Derbyshire, England."

It has taken me to a

"John Severn
B:10 Mar 1750 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England

D:Abt. 1813 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England"

Now what is interesting is that in another tree I have found the following, which is,

"Hannah Severn
B:Abt. 1795 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England

D:1883 Nuthall, Nottinghamshire, England"

And from Hannah Severn, born Abt. 1795 Greasley, is linked to "Birkin" However, how do I link the "John Severn" above to Hannah Severn, born in 1795 in Greasley?

Also the following trees have the Severn and Birkin links, but I want to find which correction is the right one, the following trees are

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/163334478/family/familyview?cfpid=182337283292&fpid=182331199944&usePUBJs=true

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/103299596/family/familyview?cfpid=240131498938

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/192142/family/familyview?cfpid=182311702702

[trish1120]

Never copy Trees.
They can be a useful guide

You must do your own research.

How far back from Hilda 1904 have you got conclusively?
Birth/Marriage Certs etc back to c 1838?

Trish

[trish1120]

I followed Hildas line back on Census to William Severn/Elizabeth Parkin.

Is this what you have?

1820 Marriage is on FreeREG Elizabeth a Minor and Marriage with consent of Parents.
Witnesses, Ann Severn/Isaac Parkin/Mary Parkin/Thomas Thorpe

William/Elizabeth had a mass bapt for their children 30 June 1837 Heanor
William/Isaac/Hannah/George/James/Joseph
(exact birth dates of children are there also eg William 27 Apr 1828)

On Census William is born c 1797 Codnor (1871 with Son Edwin)
Someone has him born Greasley 1861 Census but that William appears to be unm to me from Census.

1861 we have him as  William Severn   65 born Codnor, Widr, FWK

So if I have this right as of 1797ish no connection to Greasley, Notts

Trish 

[CaroleW]

Work back from what you know is correct

Hilda Mary Severn - parents Andrew & Mary nee Burgoyne.  The 1984 death shows her as Hilda Mary Harper - is that correct?

The tree on Ancestry has her marrying John Thomas Harper in Doncaster in 1931 as Hilda Mary Severn.  Hilda Burgoyne married John Thomas Harper & the children shown in the tree have mmn Burgoyne - not Severn

Between 1931-1945 there is only 1 Harper births with a mmn of Severn & that can be traced back to a marriage in Warwickshire

[CaroleW]

A Hilda Mary Severn b 1898 married John William Sykes in 1921

What do you yourself know for certain about Hilda Mary Severn - not what you have found in peoples  trees?   Are you directly descended from either her or one of her siblings?

A tree on Ancestry has this as the marriage but has her birthyear as 1904 & death in 1984

However - the same tree shows her probate entry as Hilda Severn!!

GRO death index

Hilda Severn aged 79 b 8 May 1904
March 1984  Belper  6 132

[shadowwind2112]

A Hilda Mary Severn b 1898 married John William Sykes in 1921

What do you yourself know for certain about Hilda Mary Severn - not what you have found in peoples  trees?   Are you directly descended from either her or one of her siblings?

A tree on Ancestry has this as the marriage but has her birthyear as 1904 & death in 1984

However - the same tree shows her probate entry as Hilda Severn!!

GRO death index

Hilda Severn aged 79 b 8 May 1904
March 1984  Belper  6 132

Eeerrrm, I have not found things in "other peoples trees" they are things that I have found myself.

[CaroleW]

Your opening post suggests otherwise hence Trish's reply above plus my own comments

Now what is interesting is that in another tree I have found the following, which is

Also the following trees have the Severn and Birkin links, but I want to find which correction is the right one, the following trees are

In your post you say you are investigating the following

"Hilda Mary Severn
B:11 Aug 1904 Codnor Park, Derbyshire, England.

D:16 Mar 1984 39 Middleton Avenue, Codnor, Derbyshire, England."

Both her death & probate entries show her just as Hilda and you will see from my reply above she was born 8.5.1904 not 11.8.1904.  Her probate entry confirms she died 16.3.1984 Codnor

There is a death reg for Hilda Mary Harper b 11.8.1904 died 1984 but in Doncaster

Name:    Hilda Mary Harper
Death Age:    79
Birth Date:    11 Aug 1904
Registration Date:    Apr 1984
Registration District:    Doncaster
Inferred County:    Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire
Volume:    3
Page:    402

[CaroleW]

The Hilda Severn who died 16.3.1984 & was born 8.5.1904 was born as Hilda Snape & married Thomas Severn in 1930

[shadowwind2112]

May have got the original post a bit tounge twisted to some extent. But is there anything that links the following,

1/. "Andrew Severn
B:18 Nov 1878 Codnor, Derbyshire, England.

D:Jun 1953 Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England."

2/. "William Severn (bap)
B:06 Jan 1797 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England

D:1879 Derbyshire, England"

3/. "Hannah Severn
B:Abt. 1795 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England

D:1883 Nuthall, Nottinghamshire, England"

And if so can anyone find a link to "Birkin" in Greasley Nottinghamshire?

So far, I have found the following trees, which contain some references to the 3 names above.

1. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/163334478/family/familyview?cfpid=182337283297

2. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/109319428/family/familyview?cfpid=202276504608