Non-existent marriage Rangeworthy 19 Aug 1761?

[Nova67]

Hello 

I have noticed that at least four of my close family have DNA matches to multiple people who further back in their trees have a Sarah Chandler marrying William Ovens on 19 Aug 1761. No further explanation as to where this marriage was and no records attached. Ancestry shows the same on public trees.

The couple had children baptised in Rangeworthy to a William Ovens and Sarah.

I assume the burial of Sarah Ovens is on 22 Oct 1826 at Holy Trinity, Rangeworthy, Gloucestershire aged 85, OTP. 

I have looked at Ancestry, FindMyPast and Free Reg.

I am wondering where the idea that she is Sarah Chandler comes from and the parish marriage, which I cannot find?

[Ruskie]

Presumably you’ve asked the tree owners where they got the information about the marriage?

Have you looked on Familysearch?  This shows coverage:

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Rangeworthy,_Gloucestershire_Genealogy
(but you may need to expand the search to other areas.)

Public trees all showing the same info obviously could have been copied off each other. 

[Nova67]

Thank you Ruskie.

There are 82 public trees, so no idea who started it  The rate of replies is such that I do not bother too much with contacting people, as it is too disheartening.

The following children of William Ovens and Sarah (unknown) are all baptised at Rangeworthy:

Sarah Ovens   25 Jul 1762
William Ovens 27 Nov 1763
Charles Ovens 17 Dec 1769

Most of the trees have Sarah born in 1724 and death date 19 Feb 1782. I have worked out where the origins of the dates come from a transcription of a memorial inscription:

https://places.wishful-thinking.org.uk/GLS/Rangeworthy/MIs.html

Sarah, w/o William OVENS,
Of this parish, 19 Feb 1782, 57
William, 12 May 1797, 67
Charles, s, 20 March 1817, 48
William, s/o Charles OVENS,
13 Sept 1876, 82
Helen his wife, 14 April ****, ** [looks like] (1838, 67)

She would have been older having the children estimated age based on above would be 38, 39 and 45. It could even be a second marriage as such.
 
Maybe the Rangeworthy parish marriages (re a potential marriage) are not online on the major sites?

[Nova67]

No joy here either:

England & Wales Hardwicke Marriage Index
Marriages 1754 - 1837
Rangeworthy Holy Trinity


http://www.tinstaafl.co.uk/eandwhmi/gloucestershire/church%20pages/rangeworthy.htm

[amondg]

William son of Charles has to be the grandson of William and Sarah.
He has to be the son of Charles who died 1814 age 48.

Burial 1876 age 82 gives a birth circa 1794

There is a William Ovens buried 9 January 1852 age 88 birth circa 1764 abode Rangeworthy who would be the son of William and Sarah.

[amondg]

Look at the 1841 census of Thornbury
Charles Chandler 80
Richard Chandler 48 Hatter
George Chandler 19
William OVENS 77

All born in county.

Perhaps this is where they got the idea his wife was a Chandler.

1851 Thornbury
William Ovens 85 born Rangeworthy pauper formerly Hatter.

Note 1841 Richard Chandler is a Hatter. Possible apprenticeship records

[Capetown]

Checking on the Forest of Dean Family History  (free, just register)

https://forest-of-dean.net

Under heading: Resources, Marriage Licence Allegations 1637-1837 and Marriage Bonds 1730-1823

There are 281 records CHANDLER (sometimes there are 2 per marriage i.e. Bond/Licence) -

3 for Thornbury, (2 of them for Levi CHANDLER in 1786 who was a felt maker.


There are only 18 OVENS Listed ranging from dates 1708 til 1837.

[Nova67]

Thank you amondg.

In the earlier apprentice records on FindMyPast multiple Chandler's in Rangeworthy are feltmakers.
Charles Chandler and his wife Amy are both Master Feltmakers

[Nova67]

Thank you also Capetown 

I was interested as x6 grandmother is Jane Chandler baptised 1754 Wedmore, Somerset? to John Chandler and Anna(h). The only dates I have for John Chandler are probable burial in 1771 in Wedmore. Different county, but otherwise will have to go back to the drawing board with the DNA matches nearest common ancestors.