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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #9 on: Monday 18 April 22 22:30 BST (UK) »
That address for 1871 is HELE Gasworks, St Marychurch.
William Northcote was buried in Torquay Cemetery on 21st August 1884 aged 71, address given as 5 Church Street.
No Sarah buried there.

Thanks for correcting the 1871 address for me and for giving me William's burial in Torquay Cemetery. Wonder if wife Ann was buried there or any of their other children?

Went to Find A Grave and it hasn't been added but I found various cemeteries for Torquay so am confirming that it's literally "Torquay Cemetery" and not listed on FAG as "Old Cemetery" or "St Mary the Virgin Churchyard."

For a non-British person like me, I've seen via Google that St Mary Church is a part of Torquay - is that correct? For family tree purposes, if a person says they were born in St Mary Church back in the day, that's what I've been putting.

Thanks again!
Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #10 on: Monday 18 April 22 22:35 BST (UK) »
William Northcote was buried in Torquay Cemetery on 21st August 1884 aged 71, address given as 5 Church Street.

Found a marriage for daughter Mary Ann Northcott (I think) to John Ellis Hobbs in 1868 and they had only 2 children: Mary Ann Hobbs 1868 and Robert Edward Ambrose Hobbs Nov 1870 (Ambrose part possibly for Mary Ann's brother Richard Ambrose Northcott).

John Ellis Hobbs died 1st March 1913 in St Marychurch
Mary Ann Hobbs was buried 26th Sep 1901 in St Marychurch

Would they possible be buried in Torquay Cemetery or would St Marychurch have a different cemetery?

Thanks again!
Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 19 April 22 09:28 BST (UK) »
To clarify- Torquay, St Marychurch & Cockington were three completely separate places until they merged in the early 1900s but even today are looked on as different places.
As to burial places-
St Marychurch - the grave yard attached to the Church of St Mary the Virgin (the parish church)
Cockington- has burial registers but no known grave yard.
Torquay- the grave yard attached to the church of St Saviour. (the parish church of Tormohun, now the Greek Orthodox Church of St Andrew)
Torquay also had a burial ground attached to the Church of St Mary Magdalene (the parish church of Upton, Torquay)
Torquay Cemetery opened in 1852 for non-conformist burials, and 1854 for Consecrated burials.
Hooper- Torquay & Exbourne
Stevenson- Plymouth & Lincolnshire
Vivian- Cornwood & London

General Torquay local history- OPC for Torquay

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 19 April 22 13:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Terry -- your explanation helps clarify things for someone "out of country" - like me.
Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations


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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 20 April 22 20:48 BST (UK) »
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William Northcote was buried in Torquay Cemetery on 21st August 1884 aged 71, address given as 5 Church Street.

Terry - just wondering if Ann Northcote (Northcott) was buried next to her husband?

Deaths Dec 1890 
Northcott    Anne    80    Newton A.

     
Deaths Dec 1897   
Northcott    Ann    81    Newton A.
   

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Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 20 April 22 21:08 BST (UK) »
We may have plumped for the wrong mother for James

James Hornesbry Northcourt
Baptism    19 Jun 1864    Torquay, St Mary,
Religion:    Anglican
Father:     James Northcourt
Mother:    Mary Ann Northcourt

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 20 April 22 21:11 BST (UK) »
There's a James Hornsberry (and other various spellings) b Brighton c1843 who was in the navy in 1861. Potential father?

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 20 April 22 23:52 BST (UK) »
We may have plumped for the wrong mother for James

James Hornesbry Northcourt
Baptism    19 Jun 1864    Torquay, St Mary,
Religion:    Anglican
Father:     James Northcourt
Mother:    Mary Ann Northcourt

It's funny because I recently found a promising marriage for Mary Ann and began to actually wonder if she might not have been James' mother!!

Mary Ann Northcott
John Ellis Hobbs
Registration Year:    1868
Registration Quarter:    Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District:    Newton Abbot
Volume:    5b
Page:    261

Since it turns out that she WAS James' mother, that could explain why he was with his maternal grandparents while she was with her new husband and children:

1) Name:    Mary Ann Hobbs
Baptism Date:    30 May 1869
Baptism Place:    Exeter, St James, Devon, England
Religion:    Anglican
Father:  John Ellis Hobbs
Mother:  Mary Ann Hobbs

2) Name:    Robert Edward Ambrose Hobbs
Baptism Date:    12 Jun 1872
Baptism Place:    Torquay, St Marychurch, Devon, England
Religion:    Anglican
Father:    John Ellis Hobbs
Mother:    Mary Ann Hobbs

YES, that James Hornsberry looks very promising as a potential father!

Thanks so much Mabel  :)
Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations

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Re: William Northcott marr 1839 Ann Venning, Lived Mostly in Torquay
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 21 April 22 00:41 BST (UK) »
Help being certain of place of burial --- thanks!!

Was it in St Marychurch, Devon or AT St Mary, Torquay??? (I know I'm ignorant of the area but want to make sure I put the correct place name in my records)

Name:    Mary Ann Hobbs
Death Age:    55
Birth Date:    1846
Burial Date:    26 Sep 1901
Burial Place:    Torquay, St Marychurch, Devon, England
Religion:    Anglican
Cheshire, Eng: HADDOCK, WORRALL, GOULDING, DICKINSON, DIMELOW

Lancashire, Eng:  LITTLER, FARRIMOND, BILSBURY, DICKENSON, DICKINSON, THOMASON

Lanarkshire, Scotland: AIRTH, GARDNER, JAMIESON, PARK, URIE, SMELLIE, TITCHBORNE

Midlothian Scotland:  AIRTH, EDMOND, GILCHRIST

Perthshire Scotland: FISHER, McLAREN, STEWART, McGREGOR
 
Renfrewshire, Scotland: HAMILTON, McKECHNIE, McKECHANY + variations