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Where was Susannah Maria Schollar in 1921?
« on: Wednesday 04 May 22 01:41 BST (UK) »
Could someone tell me where
Susannah Maria Barr nee Schollar was living and with who in 1921

she was born in JULY 1869 • Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England and married to James Leggatt Barr born  12 AUG 1863 • Bridgeton, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
 In 1911 she was in 61 Ludlow Road, Itchen, Southampton.

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Re: Where was Susannah Maria Schollar in 1921?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 01:58 BST (UK) »
You can search the 1921 on FindMyPast (without needing a sub) by address, and then purchase the image.  Even those of us with FindMyPast subs have to pay separately to see the census. (It is worth paying the higher of the two fees offered to get the actual image plus accompanying documentation)

The free search for 61 Ludlow Road, Itchen shows

“ James, Susannah Maria, Arthur George and 5 others are on this record”

Does that look as though it could be them?

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Re: Where was Susannah Maria Schollar in 1921?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 04:07 BST (UK) »
You can search the 1921 on FindMyPast (without needing a sub) by address, and then purchase the image.  Even those of us with FindMyPast subs have to pay separately to see the census. (It is worth paying the higher of the two fees offered to get the actual image plus accompanying documentation)

The free search for 61 Ludlow Road, Itchen shows

“ James, Susannah Maria, Arthur George and 5 others are on this record”

Does that look as though it could be them?

That is them, Arthur Georgeis my Great grandfather
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Re: Where was Susannah Maria Schollar in 1921?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 December 22 17:34 GMT (UK) »
it appears I am missing the 1891 census for her and can seem to track it down? can anyone help me find it?

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in 1881
Street Address   Lower Woolwich Road 1 Empress Terrace
Occupation   Scholar
Registration district   Woolwich
ED, institution, or vessel   5
Neighbours   View others on page
Piece   740
Folio   114
Page number   34
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1891????


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1901
County/Island   Kent
Country   England
Registration district   Medway
Sub-registration district   Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel   15
Neighbours   View others on page
Piece   735
Folio   69
Page number   18
Household schedule number   115
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The other thing
I know see married a James Barr.  (Cuckfield Vol 2b page 283)
Somehow, I had him as James Leggatt Barr. I don't know how I got the Leggat middle name. (I didn't cite it)
If I can find proof or not that Leggat is James's middle name, it might give more validity to the parents I possible found for him

Bethia Leggat  20 JUN 1825 • Glasgow Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland Died?
and
My brickwall
David Barr BIRTH ABT. 1814 • Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland?




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Re: Where was Susannah Maria Schollar in 1921?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 December 22 18:36 GMT (UK) »
There is a 'Scotland Select Birth and Baptism' for a James Leggatt Barr born 12 Aug 1863 Bridgeton, Glasgow - parents David Barr and Bethia Leggatt.

Maybe that's where you obtained the name.
Places of interest;
Lancashire, West Yorkshire, Southern Ireland, Scotland.

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Re: Where was Susannah Maria Schollar in 1921?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 December 22 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Who does James say is his father on the marriage certificate?


Modified to add

Did James also say he was born Glasgow on the 1921?  I ask as the 1901 says Perth  :-\

Further modified

I don’t see any reason for him to be Leggatt so far.
What about the marriage certificates of the children? Did one of them name him that way.
Even on Susannah’s probate he is just James Barr.  What about his death/probate.  One would have thought he might get his Leggatt back then.

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Re: Where was Susannah Maria Schollar in 1921?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 December 22 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Regarding Bethia Barr (nee Leggatt's) death - which you have a question mark against - a Bethia Barr aged 71 died in Calton, Glasgow in 1897. So this Bethia is the correct approx age to be the correct person.

You will be able to view her death certificate on Scotland's People for anly 6 units.
This should show her husband's name and the names of her mother and father. According to the results listing - her mother's maiden name was Kingan.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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Lancashire, West Yorkshire, Southern Ireland, Scotland.

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Re: Where was Susannah Maria Schollar in 1921?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 December 22 19:16 GMT (UK) »
Well, I haven't bought the marriage cert... Granted I could yet I haven't yet had to do so to find proof of the information. After exhausting all other options, I may buy a bunch of certs for info I need on my tree. As for now I am trying to fill in the gaps and uncertainties in my tree of thousands of people. It is not a pressing mater or academic project with a deadline. I think I have the right person based on the info I have. I also don't want to start buying wrong certs if someone here can see I made some error somewhere   

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Re: Where was Susannah Maria Schollar in 1921?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 December 22 19:19 GMT (UK) »
For Birtha I found
Janet Kingan
B:22 Jun 1800 Glasgow Barony, Lanarkshire, Scotland
and
James Leggat
B:Abt. 1801 New Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland
as likely parents