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Re: John Valente
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 04 May 22 22:48 BST (UK) »
Who was Mary Taylor?  Sister to Margaret?

Meant Mary Valente not Taylor

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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 05 May 22 16:09 BST (UK) »
Michael, your posts seem to be repeating themselves or you're reposting the same information. See replies 5,6, 7, 8 & 9 and 14, 16, 17, and 18.
If you need to correct something you've just posted or add something you missed out, click "Modify" above your post, then amend or add whatever it is. Add a P.S. saying what you amended, if more than a few minutes have passed since the original posting, so that readers know it's been altered. If more time has passed and the post has likely been already read, it may be more helpful to make a new post to mention an error or omission from a previous post.
You can modify a post or delete an unnecessary post up to 24 hours after posting. You have to ask a moderator if more than 24 hours have elapsed.
It's not always necessary to quote an entire post in a reply. You can just quote the relevant part/s. Another, shorter option is to refer to the reply number + a poster's name.
I hope this explanation helps.         
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 05 May 22 17:00 BST (UK) »
St Michael Ancoats
24th Feb 1921
Joannem Valente
Margaritam Taylor
Grooms parents Henerici Valenti and Catherinae Della Torre
Brides parents Joseph and Margaret Taylor
witnesses M P Ryan and Maria Brown
( Jam civililiter  28th Marti 1911

This was a Catholic wedding ceremony 10 years after a civil marriage ceremony. I presume the 1911 marriage was in a registry office.
John Valente and Margaret Taylor. Groom's parents Henry Valente & Catherine Della Torre.

St. Michael R.C. Church, Ancoats, Manchester. Photo + transcriptions + indexes for some baptism and marriage registers are on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website.
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Manchester/Ancoats/stmichael/index.html
Transcriptions of baptism registers go only up to 1898. There are baptisms for children of another Valente family. Surname transcribed & indexed as Valenta, Valente, Valenti. May also want to look at Valentine, Valentini, and perhaps Valvetti, Varetta, Varetti &c. in case of deciphering problems and transcription errors. Some other Italian families in the register may have been related or have come from same Italian region.
LAN-OPC Ancestor Search has an option to look up another named person in records, e.g. a marriage witness or baptismal sponsor. This can be useful when trying to gather clues for possible relationships, friendships and social/community networks.

 


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Re: John Valente
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 05 May 22 17:12 BST (UK) »
Ancoats was "Little Italy".
"Manchester's Little Italy and the Pioneers of Britain's Ice Cream Industry" by Eve Henley
https://manchesterhistorian.com 
Select "Current Issue" tab then 22nd April 2022 which takes you to the Twitter page, then click on photo of Little Italy to read article.
Manchester Italian Catholic Society formed 1888.
Manchester Italian Association is on Facebook.
Italian community's traditional Madonna Del Rosario public procession will take to Manchester streets in July after a 2 year absence. 
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 05 May 22 17:48 BST (UK) »
Ancoats was "Little Italy".
"Manchester's Little Italy and the Pioneers of Britain's Ice Cream Industry" by Eve Henley
https://manchesterhistorian.com 
Select "Current Issue" tab then 22nd April 2022 which takes you to the Twitter page, then click on photo of Little Italy to read article.


A quicker way to access the article by Eve Henley.
https://manchesterhistorian.com/tag/little-italy/

A website about history of Italian community in Ancoats "Manchester's Ancoats Little Italy" by Anthony Rea. Has a surname list and a section on ice cream families.
www.ancoatslittleitaly.com
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 05 May 22 18:22 BST (UK) »

St. Michael R.C. Church, Ancoats, Manchester. Photo + transcriptions + indexes for some baptism and marriage registers are on Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website.
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Manchester/Ancoats/stmichael/index.html
There are baptisms for children of another Valente family.


Parents Antony and Palma?
Family on 1901 census. Thompson Street, Saint George sub-district, Manchester
Piece/Folio 47; Schedule 220; Page 33
Antonio Valente age 36 born Italy, piano tuner.
Palmer wife born Italy.
Frederick 15, son, born Leeds, Yorkshire
5 youngest children born Manchester
Can't find that family on 1891 census. They had children baptised at St. Michael, Ancoats before 1891.
There was a Pietro Valente, organ grinder on 1891 census, lodging with 2 more organ grinders in Ancoats.
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 05 May 22 19:35 BST (UK) »
Here is Anthony in 1891. He is too young to be the father of John though.

1891 3242 /52

Foundry Street, Manchester
Anthony Valentine 27 yrs Piano Tuner b Italy
Palmer   -do- 25 yrs b Italy
Ferdans 5 yrs b Leeds
Rose 2 months b Manchester

Added - lodging with Crolla  family. His father was Henry - reply #13
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #25 on: Friday 06 May 22 15:19 BST (UK) »
Here is Anthony in 1891. He is too young to be the father of John though.

1891 3242 /52

Foundry Street, Manchester
Anthony Valentine 27 yrs Piano Tuner b Italy
Palmer   -do- 25 yrs b Italy
Ferdans 5 yrs b Leeds
Rose 2 months b Manchester

Added - lodging with Crolla  family. His father was Henry - reply #13

You mean John's father was Henry.
Members of a Crolla/Crolli family were godparents for a child of Anthony.
Ferdans on 1891 census was probably Frederick on 1901.
Valente was on the surnames list on the Ancoats Little Italy website (reply #22)

More surname variants in records may be Volante/Volanti/Volente/Volenti/Velente &c.
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #26 on: Friday 06 May 22 15:49 BST (UK) »
Another Valente birth, mother's maiden surname Taylor.
1914 Anthony registered Ancoats sub-district
Births of Joseph F. 1919 + the younger daughters mentioned in previous posts were registered in East Manchester sub-district. Possibly 2 more daughters registered E. Manchester 1921 & 1924.

Source: Lancashire BMD
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