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Offline Rosinish

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 02:14 BST (UK) »
Have you considered this marriage in Kirkintilloch where John was last sighted on the 1901 census...

Marriage...

HAY JOHN & CLOGGIE MARGARET 1920 - 498/ 4 Kirkintilloch (Dunbarton)


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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 06:21 BST (UK) »
I was able to pinpoint a relation whose death was notified in a Service Return, by finding his dependants in the UK Army Register of Soldiers' Effects, on Ancestry.
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 09:11 BST (UK) »
He is certainly not an easy person to find  ???

Rosie

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 11:13 BST (UK) »
Who are the parents to baby Samuel Hay who died in 1887 (born in 86), Abercorn, West Lothian?
Mothers maiden name is Eaton on death cert.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 11:43 BST (UK) »
The 1920 marriage is not him, the mother on that one is a Jane Downes.

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 13:13 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Neale1961 on Tuesday 10 May 22 11:13 BST (UK)
Who are the parents to baby Samuel Hay who died in 1887 (born in 86), Abercorn, West Lothian?
Mothers maiden name is Eaton on death cert.

Maybe another son born to James and Helen called after Helen's father Samuel Eaton..I noticed on the 1891 census there is a Grant A Hay but not there on the 1901 census ..

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 13:51 BST (UK) »
Rosie - Samuel Hay, was the son of James & Helen (Eaton) Hay, so he would have been brother of John Hay.  As to the marriage records, I have not found anything there.  I was fairly sure the marriage listed in Kirkintilloch was not him, as I know that the family lived there in 1901 census, however, they had relocated to Govan and were living on Drive Rd in 1905.  At that point, John would have been 16 and possibly still living with his parents.  As you say, he is a difficult relative to trace.

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 14:07 BST (UK) »
Quote from: FindinFamily on Monday 09 May 22 19:29 BST (UK)
Father James died in Australia in 1935 and listed on Death Cert as having 2 sons predecease him.  His son James died in 1905 in Scotland, and I have confirmation that all other sons were all alive after 1935, with the exception of John.
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So surely, the two dead sons before 1935 were Samuel and James. ?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Scotland's People - Service Returns Death Cert.
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 14:24 BST (UK) »
Do you have the exact date of birth for John Hay ?
Birth on Scotland's People as John Aiton Hay 1889 Ecclesmachen

Rosie
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