John Josiah Sadler, Cabinet Maker

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I'm hoping to confirm John Josiah Sadler's wife from at least two sources.  John Josiah Sadler often seems confused with a John Sadler of similar occupation.

John Josiah Sadler's daughter Annetta Ann Sadler married Joseph Elisha on 7 March 1870 at St. John of Jerusalem Church, South Hackney.

Clarissa Maria Siely has been suggested as John Josiah Sadler's wife but she has two other husbands too according to Ancestry (Henry Juchau and Edward Grey)

Very confused, can you help ?

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Is this the family?

1851 Census Fox Street, Bethnal Green

John Sadlar,34, cabinet maker, born Mile End Old Town
Maria, 28, born Norwich St Peters
Clara, 6, Shoreditch
Anetta, 4, Mile End New Town
Mary Ann, 1, Mile End

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It could be the right family, first names of the children are same as other sources.. Thanks.

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Is this the family?

1851 Census Fox Street, Bethnal Green

John Sadlar,34, cabinet maker, born Mile End Old Town
Maria, 28, born Norwich St Peters
Clara, 6, Shoreditch
Anetta, 4, Mile End New Town
Mary Ann, 1, Mile End

Mary Ann birth registration

SADLER, MARY  ANN     mother,s maiden name SIELY 
GRO Reference: 1850  M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 02  Page 73

Another daughter born 1847 

SADLER, CLARISSA  MARIA     SIELY 
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter in THE SHOREDITCH DISTRICT  Volume 02

John

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Am I reading your post wrong.

John Josiah Sadler baptised 10.12.1815--died aged 54 Shoreditch in 1871

John Josiah Sadler a bachelor married Clarissa Maria Siely a spinster 13.1.1866. John's occupation Cabinet maker. His father Robert Sadler occupation Cabinet maker. Clarissa's father John Siely occupation Excise Officer.
Both of full age

Clarissa Maria Sadler widow marries Henry Juchan 5th Sept 1878. Her father John Siely occ Excise Officer.

This poses the issue of quite a few Sadler children born between 1840-50 with mmn Siely.

John

John

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With regard to Clarissa having another husband Edward Gray is unless other's can show otherwise a falsehood probably taken from info on the 1891 census.

On Ancestry her name is recorded as CLARASA MCHAM, clearly incorrect if you view the image. Living with her is a grand daughter Louisa GRAY aged 12. She is probably the daughter of one of Clarissa's own daughter's as per the below birth registration

GRAY, LOUISA  MARY ANN    mother's maiden name SADLER 
GRO Reference: 1878  J Quarter in SHOREDITCH  Volume 01C  Page 118

John

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Thanks for your help

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With regard to Clarissa having another husband Edward Gray is unless other's can show otherwise a falsehood probably taken from info on the 1891 census.

Louisa appears with her parents on 1881 census ref 401 61 23.

Edward Gray 29 occ Blacksmith
Eliza Ann Gray 28  (she is the daughter of John Josiah Sadler & Clarissa)
Eliza Gray 5
Edward 3
Louisa 1

Louisa Gray born 3.4.1879, baptised 27.8.1879 daughter of  Edward & Eliza occ Blacksmith

Louisa goes on to marry Thomas Helier Whiting 25.12.1899 recording her father as EDWIN Gray occ Blacksmith

I think this dispells the fact that Clarissa ever married an Edward Gray.

John