William Jones/ Henry Jones/ Mary Ann Shepard HAILSHAM

[Celinee14]

Wondered if anyone can help, I’m trying to track down my great grandmothers birth mother.
I’ve found her dads family- her Dad was William Jones 1866-1922, son of Henry Jones 1852-1909 and Mary Ann Shepard 1853-1924.
My grandmother went to live with her dads sister Ellen (Nellie) Jones after both her parents died when my Nan was young, the family story being that they both died of the Spanish flu, although on her wedding certificate she listed her dads occupation as a soldier.
My grandmothers name was Ivy Alma Faith Jones, born sept 1913. She went by Faith in her later life, married to William Packham. I’ve searched GRO with no records to her name. I’ve looked extensively on ancestry and William Jones doesn’t seem to have registered any child births.
I’m at a loss of what I can search now to find any information about her birth parents!

[CaroleW]

Hi & Welcome to Rootschat

I’m trying to track down my great grandmothers birth mother.

I’ve found her dads family- her Dad was William Jones 1866-1922, son of Henry Jones 1852-1909 and Mary Ann Shepard 1853-1924.

If Henry Jones was only b 1852 & Ann Shepard in 1853 - they could not have had William in 1866 as they were far too young

My grandmother went to live with her dads sister Ellen (Nellie) Jones

Grandmother or great grandmother?  Did Ellen live in Sussex - what are her details

If you have been unable to find her birth cert - where did you get the info about her father?  If it was from her marriage cert - how have you traced her father back with just a name and occupation of soldier?

Death - Ivy Alma F Packham b 12.9.1913
Registration Date:    Jan 2007
Registration District:    Eastbourne
Register Number:    C64E
District and Subdistrict:    454/1C
Entry Number:    044

[CaroleW]

Have you looked for her on the 1921 census

[wivenhoe]

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Hailsham  Vol 2b page 274   DecQ 1933
PACKHAM William F  marr. JONES Ivy A F

Can you please list all the information on this marriage certificate.

[mckha489]

26 Dec 1933 All Saints, Laughton, Sussex.

William Frederick PACKHAM, 21, Bachelor, Labourer.  Poultry Farm, Laughton , father = George Packham, woodman.
Ivy Alma Faith JONES, 20, Spinster, Domestic, Lower Farm, Shortgate (a squiggle I can’t work out) father = William Jones, Soldier

Witnesses # Bertram HILDER, Vera Edith TOMSETT,  William Jones

[mckha489]

My grandmother went to live with her dads sister Ellen (Nellie) Jones

To help with trying to locate them
What information do you have for Nellie?  Where was she living? How old/ date of  birth etc

[KGarrad]

I don't have details from the 1921 census - you can get that yourself for £2.50.

But, household in Warbleton, Hailsham shows:
Ivy Jones, b 1913 in Somerset
William Jones, 1859
Mary Ann Jones, 1853
Arthur C Jones, 1911
Ellen Jones, 1895
Henry Jones, 1900
Mahaley Jones, 1862
Samuel Jones, 1899
William Jones, 1885
William Jones, 1911 Somerset

It would be well worth getting that transcript.

[softly softly]

A possible birth??   

SKARIN, IVY  ALMA FAITH    JAMES 
GRO Reference: 1913  S Quarter in CHARD  Volume 05C  Page 623

John

[wivenhoe]

GRO births
SKARIN, Frederick Cecil     mms.  - 
1909  JunQ CHARD  Vol 05C  Page 329