catherine mc bryde

[Forfarian]

If all it has is the couple and witnesses, it isn't the certificate that jamjar was talking about. That is the statutory record of the marriage, which will be much more informative.

You can get it from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk for less than the cost of a cup of coffee.

[rosie17]

There is a baptism  for a Elizabeth Mary Mcbryde  St Johns Port Glasgow 3/5/1875
Father Alexr Mcbryde
Mother Catherine Devine

Statutory record also 1875 Port Glasgow

I think this is them on the 1881 census ( LDS) free to view on Scotland's People

Catherine McBride age 27 widow born Port Glasgow occupation Mill Worker
Elizabeth McBride age 6 born Port Glasgow Elizabeth
They are with a Anthony Tolen ( grandfather) and his daughter Ann Tolen along with other lodgers

Rosie

[rosie17]

There is a death for a Alexander Mcbryde 1877 Port Glasgow age 25
Mothers maiden name Kilday
Which is a possibility

Rosie

[rosie17]

There is also a death for a Catherine McBryde 1918 Port Glasgow age 60 years
Other name Devine ..also worth checking on Scotland's People

Rosie

[rosie17]

Catherine Mcbryde is in England on the 1901/1911 census at Toxeth Park Lancashire
Gilbert R Mcintyre age 20 born Scotland
Elizabeth McIntyre  ( Mcbryde ) age 25 born Scotland
Catherine M McIntyre age 1 born Scotland
Catherine Mcbryde age 46 born Scotland mother in law
Ann Tolan age 70 born Ireland visitor

A marriage on Scotland's People 1897 Port Glasgow
Elizabeth Maria McBryde 
Gilbert Roy McIntyre

Rosie

[orkrad]

 Thank you Rosie. I did search Scotlands people for the deaths of Alexander and  Rosie without success. I now need to buy more credits to check out the details and download the info. I am also very grateful to you for folowing up Catherine to England .  The details on the Mc Intyre/Mc Bryde connection are also very valuable. Gilbert MCINTYRE exists in family photos and no one appears to know much about him apart from the fact that he was an engineer who worked for the Cunard line.  Another wee twig on a branch of the family tree to investigate . Regards Orkrad

[rosie17]

Gilbert Roy Macintyre died 11 March 1939 address 23 The Avenue Southampton
Elizabeth Maria Macintyre died 15 June 1936 same address as above
Information from probate records

1891 Census address 40,Church Street Port Glasgow
Ann Tollan age 49 born Ireland
Mary McBride ( Catherine) age 33 born Port Glasgow ( Mill Worker ). Niece
Lizzie McBride age 15 born Port Glasgow ( pupil teacher ) grand or Great Niece
2 other lodgers in the house then we have
Gilbert McIntyre age 1873 born Yoker age 18 (riveter in ship Yard )

Rosie

[rosie17]

It would be interesting to see who the parents are for Catherine Devine when you get her marriage certificate ?
I have only found her on census records as Catherine Tolan 

Rosie

[orkrad]

 Thanks Rosie, Forfarian, Wivenhoe, Jamjar and Neale  for your help.

Rosie, to answer your question the statutory  record of the marriage of Alexander MCBRYDE and CatherineDIVINE shows the following. Catherine's father _______ DIVINE ( boilermaker deceased ) and mother Bridget DIVINE (ms TOLLAN).
 I have also tried over the years to find the death cert for Catherine's father. His name  according to his marriage certificate was  Charles.  I also am more than a bit puzzled that Catherine's mother is named  Bridget in several censuses and in others as Elizabeth DIVINE/TOLAN .  Catherine's grandmother in the 1841 census is also named Bridget so the name change may be to avoid confusion. The family TOLLIN/TOLLAN plus other name variations were from Ireland  ( there are no records of where they came from even in the local church where they worshipped) .   Were   Bridget and Elizabeth and Betty  alternative uses in Ireland for the same person?  The search continues. Orkrad