Clark(e) family, Dundee, 1860s/1870s - Clean up and clothing details, please?

[Lisa in California]

Previous post about this photo (note - I have found out some facts about the Tierneys and Clarks since my original post):
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=791222.0

Might someone be able to clean up the photo, please? (Hopefully, the attachment will work; I do not see it in the preview.)

Also, any details about their clothing would be interesting to read, please. I know very little about clothing from that period so anything to read would expand my knowledge. Thank you, Lisa 

[japeflakes]

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[Lisa in California]

Thank you, japeflakes.  Let me see how I can fix it.

[Lisa in California]

I believe the photo is now showing. Thank you for letting me know about the problem, japeflakes.

It is after 1:00 am here; I will be back “in the morning”.  Thank you.

[Trishanne]

I hope you have a good nights sleep  Here is a clean up from me
Pat

[Stanwix England]

https://fashionhistory.fitnyc.edu/1860-1869/

https://fashionhistory.fitnyc.edu/1870-1879/

This is quite an interesting page for learning more about women's fashions of the period.

I'm no expert, but I think the seated woman might not be wearing a crinoline. The standing woman might be. Not everyone did of course. The style became a bit more flat in the front from 1865 onwards, so perhaps that is part of what is going on.

It is possible, given the colours that the women are wearing, that they are in mourning, although again, that's just guess work, because it's hard for me to be sure what colours they were wearing. The women in the middle could be in full mourning and the lady to her left in half mourning. The lack of significant amounts of jewellery is another pointer towards that, but equally they might just not have been able to afford jewellery.

[Gadget]

Hello Lisa   

JenB has drawn my attention to this thread:

Just linking to your new thread  (in case Gadget and Carol have any more observations about the clothing  )
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=863702.msg7333754

Thanks Jennifer.  I used my various photo dating books to date the photo back then.

Here are some images of ladies clothing during that period:

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~victorianphotographs/history/date/a1869.htm

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~victorianphotographs/history/date/a1870.htm

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~victorianphotographs/history/date/a1871.htm

Gadget


PS - I don't see anything that is obviously mourning clothing.

[JenB]

The triangular ornamentation at the top of her sleeve seems to me to be similar to this
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=772679.msg6256799#msg6256799 which Jim dated as mid-late 1860's. The trim is apparently known as Vandyking.

[Rosinish]

Not to do with the clothing but the cross evident on the lady standing would signify the family were likely catholic.

However, given the length & a close-up inspection, it looks like rosary beads?

The young girl looks of an age to have possibly been receiving her 1st holy communion which is around 7 - 9 yrs?

Lisa...

What addresses do you have for the Clark family in Dundee & when as I have connections (although not direct line) with the surname Clark in Dundee who were Irish immigrants?

Can you give some of the family details for me to compare please?

Annie