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Offline familydar

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Age and date please
« on: Saturday 09 July 22 13:55 BST (UK) »
This photo smells of my grandparents' house but I don't know who it's of!

Printed on fairly coarse paper, nothing written on the back or on the frame or backing card etc.  The piece of paper is about 5 inches x just over 7 inches.  The oval photo area is 3½" x 5".

If it can be roughly dated and someone can estimate the sitter's age, that will narrow down the candidates a bit.  I have no objections if anyone want to give her a bit of a clean-up.

Jane :-)
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BARR, BARRATT, BERRY, BRADLEY,BRAMLEY,BRISTOW,BROWN,BUGBIRD,BUTLER
CAIN,CARR,CHAPMAN,CHARLES,CH*LTON,CHESTER,COCKETT
COLLASON,COLLYER,CORKERY
DARLING, DENYER,DICKERSON,DOLLING,DURBAN
FARMER,FURNELL
GIBSON,GILES,GROOMBRIDGE
HALL,HAMBIDGE,HARMES,HART,HICKS,HILL,HOLLOWAY
JACKSON
K*AT*S
LANCASTER,LINTON
MCDONALD,MCFADEN,MEARS,MILLARD
NICOLAS,NOAK,NORTH
PARFIT,PORTER
RIPPINGALE,ROBINS
SEARLE,SPENCER,STEDHAM
TYLER,TILLY,TUCKWELL
WADE,WAGER,WALKER,WATSON,WEBB,WITHRINGTON,WOOD

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Re: Age and date please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 July 22 15:25 BST (UK) »
About 30 maybe.  Looks pretty old but people with more experience will be along to date it for you.
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Re: Age and date please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 July 22 15:54 BST (UK) »
There's not a lot to see of he clothing but, from what ther is, it looks 1880s*. Also, late 20s - mid 30s for age.

Do you have the back that you could scan, please?

Gadget

* possibly even late 1870s but would need to see the back.
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Re: Age and date please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 July 22 16:11 BST (UK) »
Here's the reverse, Gadget
ALLEN
BARR, BARRATT, BERRY, BRADLEY,BRAMLEY,BRISTOW,BROWN,BUGBIRD,BUTLER
CAIN,CARR,CHAPMAN,CHARLES,CH*LTON,CHESTER,COCKETT
COLLASON,COLLYER,CORKERY
DARLING, DENYER,DICKERSON,DOLLING,DURBAN
FARMER,FURNELL
GIBSON,GILES,GROOMBRIDGE
HALL,HAMBIDGE,HARMES,HART,HICKS,HILL,HOLLOWAY
JACKSON
K*AT*S
LANCASTER,LINTON
MCDONALD,MCFADEN,MEARS,MILLARD
NICOLAS,NOAK,NORTH
PARFIT,PORTER
RIPPINGALE,ROBINS
SEARLE,SPENCER,STEDHAM
TYLER,TILLY,TUCKWELL
WADE,WAGER,WALKER,WATSON,WEBB,WITHRINGTON,WOOD

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Re: Age and date please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 July 22 16:33 BST (UK) »
Oh dear - not a lot to go on there, is there  :-X

What paper or card is it printed on?  I notice that there looks as if there's a phootgraphers name to bottom right below the oval. I'll see if I can bring it up.
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Re: Age and date please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 July 22 16:44 BST (UK) »
I'm on my laptop so don't have all my photo manipulation tools. Maybe japeflakes or one of the others can get more out of it.  There are some marks - maybe letters or imprints but not sure.
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Re: Age and date please
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 July 22 18:49 BST (UK) »
You might have missed that we have suggested that she's circa 30 and the date would be late 1870s - 1880s.
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Re: Age and date please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 July 22 19:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget, I did see that and it would fit with the woman indeed being Eliza who was born 1848.  The other main contender was Priscilla who was born 1842.

If anyone can make anything of the mark that you think might be a photographer's mark (the photo, frame, glass, everything is absolutely filthy and I have to say I'd just assumed it was dirt) that might help narrow the date, the family moved from Bristol to London between the 1871 and 1881 censuses.

Jane :-)
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BARR, BARRATT, BERRY, BRADLEY,BRAMLEY,BRISTOW,BROWN,BUGBIRD,BUTLER
CAIN,CARR,CHAPMAN,CHARLES,CH*LTON,CHESTER,COCKETT
COLLASON,COLLYER,CORKERY
DARLING, DENYER,DICKERSON,DOLLING,DURBAN
FARMER,FURNELL
GIBSON,GILES,GROOMBRIDGE
HALL,HAMBIDGE,HARMES,HART,HICKS,HILL,HOLLOWAY
JACKSON
K*AT*S
LANCASTER,LINTON
MCDONALD,MCFADEN,MEARS,MILLARD
NICOLAS,NOAK,NORTH
PARFIT,PORTER
RIPPINGALE,ROBINS
SEARLE,SPENCER,STEDHAM
TYLER,TILLY,TUCKWELL
WADE,WAGER,WALKER,WATSON,WEBB,WITHRINGTON,WOOD

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Re: Age and date please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 July 22 20:18 BST (UK) »
There are some similar marks on the back as well.

Is it of thin card as I can see the oval cut out marks?  How does it look - top mount, photo and then backing? 

Add- just had a better look and I think the marks on the back are scuff.wear and tear marks
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