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Elizabeth Williams Ashley, marriage(s) and death
« on: Tuesday 26 July 22 21:46 BST (UK) »
I would appreciate some help with Elizabeth Williams Ashley.

I am horribly confused and will probably miss a pertinent fact out, please bear with me.

Elizabeth Williams Ashley is the daughter of Thomas Ashley, a butcher, and Harriet Cole, and baptised 29th April 1832 in Abson, Gloucestershire.

I have her with Thomas and second wife Mary in the 1841 census, together with sisters Eleanor and Sarah.  I’ve yet to find her in 1851, 1861 or 1871 census.

In 1861 Thomas and Mary have a grandson with them, together with daughters Selina and Sarah. He is Thomas A Cox, born 1857 in Glamorgan. Birth registration is for Thomas Ashley Cox in April 1857 in Cardiff- MMN is Ashley.

I am also wondering if Eleanor could be Selina? I can find birth regs and baptisms for Selina and Sarah, but nothing for an Eleanor.

A search of the census in Wales gives an Eber Cox together with wife Emma, and son Thomas. There’s a marriage between Heber Cox and an Emma Ashley in December qtr 1852 in Newport.  Could Emma be either Eleanor or Elizabeth?

Elizabeth next turns up in Bristol in 1876, marrying a widowed Jacob Long. Her name is given as Elizabeth Williams Ashley, and she says she is a spinster. She and Jacob are together in the 1881 (together with an Elizabeth Cox, cannot read the relationship to head) and 1891 census. Jacob dies In 1892. There’s a possibility for a widowed Elizabeth in the 1901 census in Cardiff, and another possibility in the 1911 census in Oldland Common, Bristol.

If you have stayed with me so far, well done!  If anyone could shed any light on this, I’d be really grateful.
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Elizabeth Williams Ashley, marriage(s) and death
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 July 22 21:57 BST (UK) »
1871?  In Oldland Common, Bitton, which matches your possible 1911 entry

Piece 2499, folio 43, page 18

Elizabeth Ashley    38    unmarried, beer seller b Holbrook, Glos
Elizabeth M Cox   17    Niece b Risca
Francis W Cox   11    Nephew b Blackwood, Glam

Elizabeth Cox is also niece in 1881

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Re: Elizabeth Williams Ashley, marriage(s) and death
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 July 22 22:02 BST (UK) »
1861 - lodging with the Howell family in Llantrisant

Eber Cox           30    farrier b marshfield Glos
Emma Cox   31  b Wick and "Asbon"
Elizabeth M Cox    7    b Risca
Francis W Cox   1    b Llanwynno, Glam

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Re: Elizabeth Williams Ashley, marriage(s) and death
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 July 22 22:03 BST (UK) »
GRO index

COX Elizabeth Mary
Mother’s maiden name ASHLEY
GRO Reference:  1853
D Qtr Newport
Volume: 11A Page 153


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Re: Elizabeth Williams Ashley, marriage(s) and death
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 July 22 22:10 BST (UK) »
Just to confirm Emma and Elizabeth are different people, here's Emma in the Rhondda in 1891

Emma Cox    51    Head. Widow b Holbrook
Francis W. Cox    21    Son
Theodore G. Cox   14    Son
William H.A. Cox   10    Son

Emma was baptised as Emma

Emma Ashley
Baptism    25 Oct 1829 Abson, St James,
Father:    Thomas Ashley
Mother:    Harriett Ashley

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Re: Elizabeth Williams Ashley, marriage(s) and death
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 July 22 22:14 BST (UK) »
Thank you for these. I need to review properly in the morning when I am fresher.

Ah, so Emma is someone else. That clarifies things.
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Elizabeth Williams Ashley, marriage(s) and death
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 July 22 22:17 BST (UK) »
Haven't found Emma in 1841 yet, but 1851 finds her in service in Clifton, born "Allbrook"

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Re: Elizabeth Williams Ashley, marriage(s) and death
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 July 22 22:34 BST (UK) »
GRO index

COX Elizabeth Mary
Mother’s maiden name ASHLEY
GRO Reference:  1853
D Qtr Newport
Volume: 11A Page 153

For info

Elizabeth Mary Cox
Baptism date 25 Dec 1853 Risca Monmouthshire
Father Heber, ostler Mother Emma

Heber Cox , f/a, hostler father Daniel, labourer
Emma Ashley f/a,  father Thomas, butcher
Marriage 5 Oct 1852 Newport, St Woolos



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Re: Elizabeth Williams Ashley, marriage(s) and death
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 July 22 07:10 BST (UK) »
GRO index

COX Elizabeth Mary
Mother’s maiden name ASHLEY
GRO Reference:  1853
D Qtr Newport
Volume: 11A Page 153

For info

Elizabeth Mary Cox
Baptism date 25 Dec 1853 Risca Monmouthshire
Father Heber, ostler Mother Emma

Heber Cox , f/a, hostler father Daniel, labourer
Emma Ashley f/a,  father Thomas, butcher
Marriage 5 Oct 1852 Newport, St Woolos

Definitely Thomas daughter - he’s a butcher in the various census, and down as same in Elizabeth’s baptism.
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?