Alexander Turner of Troqueer parish 882

[ppasmith]

Greetings from Duxbury, Massachusetts. I need help with this man, I have him married to Mary McKay (Scotland Select Marriage records at ancestry.com) 9 July 1843. Trying to prove he is same Alexander Turner  and Mary Turner in US Census 1870 Newark, NJ. A birth record in Torqueer? Is there any record of his death in Troqueer? What are his parents names, William Turner b. 1771 1841 Scotland Census, Troqueer? Your assistance, records to chase is appreciated, Duxbury Pam

[Kloumann]

1851 census, Dumfries, Scotland.

Alexander Turner, age 31, born Troqueer, Ironmonger, wife Mary, 30, born Troqueer, children, William, 6, John, 4, Charlotte, 2, & Mary, 7 mnths. Children all born Dumfries.

Same family as 1870 Newark census

Immigration between 1851 & 1856

[Neale1961]

1841 census, with probable parents William and Mary
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59034d3de9379091b149436e/alexander-turner-1841-kirkcudbrightshire-troqueer-1821-?locale=en

Marriage for parents 9 Dec 1810 Troqueer
William TURNER to Mary GRIER

[Neale1961]

1841 census for Mary McKay.
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59034d39e9379091b1493317/mary-mckay-1841-kirkcudbrightshire-troqueer-1821-?locale=en

Probable marriage for parents 21 Nov 1802 Dumfries
John McKay to Charlotte Dalziel / Dalzell

It would appear that Alexander’s children are named traditionally after his parents and his wife’s parents - William and Mary; John and Charlotte.

[Neale1961]

I believe this answers your questions with certainty.

From Troqueer Graveyard Memorial Inscriptions

Sacred to the memory of William TURNER ship owner Maxwelltown, who died 13th Oct 1842 aged 75 years.    Also Mary GRIERSON his relict who died 1st May 1852 aged 82 years.    Also James TURNER son of the above who died 18th March 1848 aged 37 years. Also Catherine D WHITE his spouse who died 11th December 1848 aged 45 years.    Also Alexander TURNER son of the above William TURNER who died at New Jersey 14th March 1875 aged 75 years.    Also William son of the above James TURNER who died at South End on Sea Essex England 6th May 1916 aged 75 years.

In memory of John MCKAY late manufacturer in Maxwelltown who died Decr 24th 1850 aged 77 years.    Also Charlotte DALZIEL his spouse who died April 19th 1851 aged 72 years.    Also Mary and William their children who died in infancy.
Note - this child "Mary Mckay" was their first born daughter (7 Apr 1803) and the name was used again for another daughter - no baptism record found for Mary #2 who married Alexander.

[ppasmith]

This is fabulous!!!woohoo to you, can you be more specific about the turner graveyard, a church yard? Also what graveyard is McKay buried ? This is so wonderful.

I can’t wait to share this news with family,
Duxbury Pam

[Neale1961]

Troqueer Parish Church graveyard. Both Turner and McKay families have memorials there.

The Parish of Troqueer lies within the Stewartry of Kirkcudbright and includes the former Burgh of Maxwelltown. The Parish is bordered on the North by the Parish of Terregles, on the South by New Abbey Parish, on the West by Lochrutton Parish and has the River Nith to the East.
The present church stands in an elevated position above the River Nith and is the latest of many churches which have stood on this site.

[Neale1961]

Alexander Turner’s older brother, James is mentioned on the grave memorial I posted in reply #4.
James Turner married Catherine Denholm White in 1840
This is James and family in the 1841 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5902e7dae9379091b1d3e661/catherine-turner-1841-dumfriesshire-dumfries-1813-?locale=en

They also had a daughter named Patricia Jane in 1844.

After James and Catherine Turner died in 1848, at a young age, it looks as if their two children William and Patricia were cared for by an aunt Jane White, a school mistress in Dumfries.
Both William and Patricia appear to have never married. They are living together in Camberwell London in the 1881, 1891, 1901 & 1911 census. William was a clerk to a tea merchant.
Patricia died in 1931 Greenwich London.

[Neale1961]

Mary (Grierson) Turner in 1851 census is living in Church St Troqueer.
She gives her age as 75 (ie born about 1776) and her place of birth as Troqueer.
Her age at death and her age in the census are conflicting, but I am inclined to favour the age in the census.
There are 2 possible baptisms on ScotlandsPeople  https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

1/ Mary Grierson 18/02/1776 Troqueer. Parents James Grierson and Margaret McGowan
2/ Mary Grierson 11/09/1774 Troqueer. Parents John Grierson
It is possible that James and John Grierson are brothers – both having families at the same time in the same place.

Looking at William Turner his age at death suggests birth around 1767. We don’t know where he was born.
I would suggest you get the 1810 marriage record for William Turner and Mary Grier to see if there is any detail there about where he was from, or names of witnesses that might help. Unfortunately there is no guarantee that you will get any useful information.