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JOHN PETERS emigration from SCOTLAND to AUSTRALIA
« on: Friday 12 August 22 12:11 BST (UK) »
Hi all,
I am having trouble identifying when JOHN PETERS came to Australia (probably Queensland) early last century. He was born on 14 Apr 1830 at St Martin (Duning) in Perthshire. He was still in Scotland at the time of the 1891 census. His wife, Margaret Flynn (or Flinn) died in the Parochial Hospital at Dundee on 15 Sep 1902 and we think John then came to Australia where he had a daughter in Brisbane who could look after him (they are buried together at Toowong Cemetery). John died in Brisbane on 15 Sep 1910. I have been trying without success to find his arrival in Australia. The national archives have a John Peters arriving in Fremantle (from Bremen) but that is not him.  I started with the Queensland immigration records but had no success there. It is possible that he came to Australia before his wife died, I suppose, but otherwise he must have emigrated in the period 1902-1910. Any help much appreciated. Geoff Turner.

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Re: JOHN PETERS emigration from SCOTLAND to AUSTRALIA
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 August 22 01:29 BST (UK) »
His death certificate says he was seven years in Queensland, which means he arrived about 1903, the year after his wife died. Which makes sense. At the time of his death he was living with his daughter Mary in Welsby St, New Farm. So she was obviously who was looking after him in his old age. As I said, they are buried together at Toowong. He would have been about 73 when he came to Queensland, which means he would have been too old to be an assisted passenger (I presume) which makes finding him harder.

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Re: JOHN PETERS emigration from SCOTLAND to AUSTRALIA
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 August 22 02:07 BST (UK) »
Yes he was still in Scotland for the 1901 census.

I found this in 1908, but I don't feel confident that it is him.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8D-17QK?cc=2613135&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AW6CR-4CN2
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: JOHN PETERS emigration from SCOTLAND to AUSTRALIA
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 August 22 02:11 BST (UK) »

Did John PETERS, died 1910, Brisbane, leave a Will in Queensland.

Your research so far  might suggest if he had any estate or money.

If he had a Will in Queensland you might think it was written soon after arrival.


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Re: JOHN PETERS emigration from SCOTLAND to AUSTRALIA
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 August 22 02:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the effort, but that would not be him. Too late, and he would have been something like a farm labourer whereas that man was a (commercial?) traveller. I have just discovered his daughter lived at Gympie in 1903, so I will try to find him in the Maryborough arrivals.

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Re: JOHN PETERS emigration from SCOTLAND to AUSTRALIA
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 August 22 02:21 BST (UK) »
Also onboard “SUEVIC” arriving Melbourne in 1903 is a John Peters, age 67, – a “contractor”
https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/42B568AA-F96C-11E9-AE98-8B326E31E77F?image=159

Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: JOHN PETERS emigration from SCOTLAND to AUSTRALIA
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 August 22 02:40 BST (UK) »
The Suevic entry is interesting, assuming he intended to keep going to Queensland, had shaved a few years off his age, and had upgraded his occupation -- all possible. Thanks.

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Re: JOHN PETERS emigration from SCOTLAND to AUSTRALIA
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 August 22 03:50 BST (UK) »
If he arrived into Queensland and wasn't an assisted passenger then his name will not be indexed.  You would have to go to the archives and search manually through the ships' manifests.

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Re: JOHN PETERS emigration from SCOTLAND to AUSTRALIA
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 August 22 04:00 BST (UK) »
Yes, and it has occurred to me that if he sailed from Liverpool to Melbourne on the "Suevic", went through Immigration there, and made his way to Queensland by land or coastal steamer, he would not be arriving in Queensland as an "immigrant" anyway. I am heading back to the NAA site but that is my working theory at the moment. Thanks to all, and especially Neale1961. Geoff