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The Old Hand Inn, Llansillin
« on: Saturday 13 August 22 16:19 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I am interested in learning the history of The Old Hand Inn, Llansillin.  Does anyone have any information about its past, images or know where I can go to find out more.
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Re: The Old Hand Inn, Llansillin
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 August 22 20:36 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

I've been in the Hand Hotels in Chirk, Llanarmon and Llangollen but not Llansilin.

I think the Hand refers to the Myddletons of Chirk Castle and the greater Chirk area.

https://celtstories.wordpress.com/2019/10/15/the-bloodied-hand-of-chirk-castle/

I might have more in some of my books but will have to get them out.

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Re: The Old Hand Inn, Llansillin
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 August 22 20:38 BST (UK) »
Re the ref I gave above~

This para explains the Hand origin
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..... the reason why there are pubs and hotels called The Hand in the Ceiriog and Dee valley and at one time in Wrexham is simple. The Myddeltons of Chirk Castle were prominent landowners in the area and the hand was a reference to their Coat of Arms. The ‘Bloodied Hand’ celebrated Sir Thomas Myddelton III being awarded the Baronetcy in 1660.
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Re: The Old Hand Inn, Llansillin
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 August 22 21:29 BST (UK) »
What particular era were you interested in,  as the Hand Inn was in the village on the 1851 census.

The Publicsn was a William Hughes, aged 26 and his wife, Ann, aged 27. Both were born in Llansilin.
HO107/1993/202/5

They were still there in 1881
RG11/2656/6/4

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Re: The Old Hand Inn, Llansillin
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 August 22 22:24 BST (UK) »
I don't see it on the largest maps but, referring to the census, it lies somewhere between the White Lion Inn and the Cross Foxes.

https://maps.nls.uk/view/135194752#zoom=5&lat=9960&lon=5167&layers=BT

I've checked two of my books on the history of the area but no references so far. I have another two that I'll look at tomorrow.

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Re: The Old Hand Inn, Llansillin
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 August 22 03:39 BST (UK) »
There are a few mentions in Welsh newspapers of the Hand Inn, Llansilin from 1878 - 1909.
https://newspapers.library.wales/home

Use "Hand inn, Llansilin" as a search term, and try variations.  :)

Items include these:
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4592170/4592171/1/
(for sale, in occupation of William HUGHES in 1885)


https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3836589/3836593/50/
"The house is situated in the centre of the village of Llansilin, the owner being Mr John Roberts of Darwen House, Llansilin, and the licensee is his son.  ...  The house was small and in a short distance and within a short distance were two fully licensed houses, one of which (the White Lion) belonged to the same owner"
 The Welsh Coast Pioneer and Review for North Cambria, 10th June 1909

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