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Mary Jane Obryan
« on: Saturday 03 September 22 13:33 BST (UK) »
Good Afternoon,
For a long time now,I’ve been trying to find the marriage of Mary Jane Obryan and Thomas Cooper,with no joy,so I thought I would ask all you kind people out there.
What I do know,is from the 1901 census,when they were all in kemberton,Shropshire.
Two of their children were born in Southern Ireland,Kilkenny and Cork,all the others in Shropshire.
The age shown for the mum is 30,and Thomas was 33.
Mary Ann was ten/Kilkenny and Isabella was 9/Cork.
I’m just questing they probably married around 1891,going by Mary’s age.
On Ancestry,someone has put her dads name as John Bryan and her mums as Jane Byrne,but I don’t know that.
Thanking you in advance

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Re: Mary Jane Obryan
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 September 22 13:53 BST (UK) »
Here is Isabella’s birth - mother Jane Brine
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02352/1879127.pdf

Thomas is a Private in the Shropshire Regiment

Mary Anne - mother Jane Byrne
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02428/1904552.pdf

No sign of a marriage yet. Jane gives Wexford as her place of birth in 1901.
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Re: Mary Jane Obryan
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 September 22 13:59 BST (UK) »
Deleted it just repeated heywood's. 

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Re: Mary Jane Obryan
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 September 22 14:00 BST (UK) »
You migh5 find some information on his military record.
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Re: Mary Jane Obryan
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 September 22 14:06 BST (UK) »
There is this birth for a Jane Brien in 1/2/1870 with father Patt Brien and mother Catherine nee Redmond born at Sion Co Wexford Kilpatrick Parish
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03357/2230963.pdf

https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/shelmaliere-east/kilpatrick/artramon/sion/

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Re: Mary Jane Obryan
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 September 22 14:39 BST (UK) »
There is another one just below that shanreagh. :-\

She calls herself Mary Jane in 1911 so might be looking for Mary as Irish genealogy doesn’t show second name in the indexes.

I have looked for an English marriage but nothing there either that I can see.
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Re: Mary Jane Obryan
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 September 22 00:33 BST (UK) »
There is another one just below that shanreagh. :-\

She calls herself Mary Jane in 1911 so might be looking for Mary as Irish genealogy doesn’t show second name in the indexes.

I have looked for an English marriage but nothing there either that I can see.

It is just that on the children's birth registration she is Jane Brine and Jane Byrne. 

The lower entry, sorry I should have put this as well is for a Jane also a daughter of Laurence Brien and Margaret Brien nee Hughes in Newcastle on 22/2/1870. 

It would be useful if OP could come back and let us know the names, in birth order,  of the other children they may have had.

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Re: Mary Jane Obryan
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 September 22 04:08 BST (UK) »
Brien/O'Brien and Byrne are two quite different surnames, which does not help. Has OP got the mother's surname from the births of the other children in England?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown/Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh/Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee/Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough/Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson/Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry/Oulart;WALSH Kilrane/Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Mary Jane Obryan
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 September 22 08:32 BST (UK) »
From GRO
1894   John Harold - OBrine

1895.   Thomas Laurence - OBrien

1897.    William Andrew -  Bryen

1900.      Lily.     - OBryan

1902.     Edith.  -    Bryan

1903     Reuben.   -OBryan

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