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Sleuths wanted!
« on: Wednesday 14 September 22 15:36 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Hoping some of you sleuths might have better luck than me on this search. I'm trying to find any history relating to a Henry Edward Seymour. I have only found him in the 1861 census RG9/2626/97 p 23. He is listed as Surgeon, born 1822 Manchester. He is married to Mary Ann. His daughter is Clara, born 1855 East Indies (?). I think there may be a DNA link to this family but I've not maanged to find any birth, marriage, census or immigration info other than 1861. Can anyone help please?

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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 16:12 BST (UK) »
dont know if you have seen this marriage on Ancestry

1.9.1912 St Matthews Toxteth Park John Pallister 62 widower butcher father James Pallister (deceased) Blacksmith to Amy Constance Seymour 36 spinster housekeeper father Henry Edward Seymour (deceased) surgeon

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 16:16 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have, yes! It is Amy's lineage I am trying to trace back. There's a possible marriage in 1862 Swansea for Henry Edward Seymour marrying Elizabeth Coles but can't find any details so may have to order it.

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 17:15 BST (UK) »
if Clara was born in the East Indies this might be why you are having trouble finding anything Amy is on the 1921 census on FindMyPast with her husband so it might be worth paying to access the image to see if it gives you any further information

I'll keep looking though

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 17:32 BST (UK) »
using the free search on the 1921 census, Amy C Palliser shows as born Liverpool 1878.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 17:50 BST (UK) »
There are some limited published trees.

Is this her in 1871 3845 /41/32

Elizabeth Seymour widow 30yrs shop woman b Cardiff
Amy C Seymour   8 months Daughter b Liverpool
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 17:55 BST (UK) »
Baptisms Lancashire opc

25th August 1867
Rosa Mary Seymour daughter of Henry and Elizabeth

9th February 1874
Birth 1st August 1871 (birth shows 1870)
Amy Constance - parents John Seymour and Elizabeth
Occupation: Gas Fitter
Abode Blandford Street

GRO shows mmn Coles
Death for Rose Mary 1868
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 20:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks All.

I'd seen the 1871 census and thought it a good possibility. What put me off was that Elizabeth's place of birth was listed as cardiff. Probably worth me buying the marriage cert from 1862. Amy did marry john palliser. Some how the name Smith is also connected (written on the back of her photo). Her father is listed as Henry edward seymour, Surgeon. Amy was in and out of the workhouse and gave her daughters up for adoption. I have a close DNA connection to Amy's descendent but can't figure it out. Through DNA I know the location is Orrell nr Wigan around 1860 which is why I'm trying to figure out Amy's ancestry.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 September 22 20:46 BST (UK) »
death reg
Henry Edward Seymour 41 dec qtr 1868 West Derby vol 8b pg 335
burial Anfield Cemetery 6 Dec 1868 address noted as Mitylene Street, Kirkdale.

birth reg
Amy C Seymour sept qtr 1870 Liverpool vol 8b pg 174 mmn Coles

Henry Edward can't be her biological father. Who is John, gas fitter, named on Amy's baptism? Perhaps that's where the DNA connection comes in?

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb