The Casseneet (Cassenet or de Cassenet) Family

[daisy1942]

HJi,

Has anyone here researched the Cassenet family?  I am interested in any information  to enlarge the knowledge below:

Peter Vincent Cassenet (PVC) was born to Peter Pierre Cassenet (1740 -1811) and Jeanne M Lapierre. 

Pierre Cassenet was born around 1740 Nancy, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France and died about 1811 New Orleans, Louisiana, USA.  I have a copy of the Wills and Probate record dated 18 Jul 1811.  Pierre had a brother Charles Cassenet born 1742.  Jeanne M Lapierre was born circa 1742 Saone et Loire and died New Orleans circa 1818
Peter Vincent Cassenet had a brother Jean Baptiste Cassenet  born circa 1772 Nancy, Meuthe et Moselle.
Peter Vincent Cassenet married Ann Dean in Shoreditch London 19 August 1799 died in London 17 June 1848.

How, when and why did the family leave France?  Had they fallen foul of the Revolution?  Many years back i found a detailed biography of either Peter Pierre Cassenet or his son Peter Vincent.  Sadly a computer crash lost this information for me.  Therefore, any information gratefully received!!

Thanks all!

[jayaygee]

Have you seen this:

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Ann_Dean_(11)

and the link to Peter Vincent Cassanet gives you a biography.

Sorry, the link doesn't appear to work but if you go to the WeRelate website you can seach for Ann Dean and/or Peter Vincent Cassanet, if you haven't already done so.

[jayaygee]

Also mentioned here:
https://www.geneanet.org/archives/ouvrages?action=detail&book_type=livre&livre_id=745021&page=2&name=CASSANET&with_variantes=1
and here:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5720245h.image.r=CASSANET.f88.hl

[davidqueneherve]

Hello,

I am a bit skeptical on this one. How do you know the names of his parents ?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DY73-WV7?i=4&cc=1388197

Burial on June 27th 1811

and https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C3SL-63XP-3?cc=4234528&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6ZL2-NRBJ

Native of San Miguel Vitla, France.

He was a slave owner.

Jean Marie LAPEYRE is a man and the curator to his estate. No mention of a wife, nor children

[daisy1942]

Hi David,

There are a number of people researching the name Cassenet on Ancestry.  Several list the names of the Peter Vincent as above.

I am curious to know how when and why the family left france

[joger]

Hello,

I am a bit skeptical on this one. How do you know the names of his parents ?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DY73-WV7?i=4&cc=1388197

Burial on June 27th 1811

and https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C3SL-63XP-3?cc=4234528&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6ZL2-NRBJ

Native of San Miguel Vitla, France.

He was a slave owner.

Jean Marie LAPEYRE is a man and the curator to his estate. No mention of a wife, nor children

The first link leads to a letter where Lapeyre, friend of Pierre Cassanet who died "ab intestat "( without having made a will), owning no house , only a slave boy of 8 or 9 year's old and a few poor clothes ), asks for permission for winding up the estate.
Louisiana was a french territory at that time.

[davidqueneherve]

Hi,

Ancestry has never been a reliable source of information, unless it's based on actual records and let me guess those family trees aren't linked to a single French record, are they ?

Back to the UK, what does his marriage record say ?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ZGDD-TD6Z

Does his burial record mention his age ?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:CFX3-MP6Z

According to his family name, he is more likely to have come from the Western part of France.

Someone mentioned Brittany as a possible place of origin

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/K8P8-5YP

"Place of birth may possibly be Nantes, Brittany, France. According to papers belonging to the family of Doctor Thomas Hodgkin who was a pupil of Peter Vincent Cassanet, Peter was originally from Brittany before coming to London at the time of the French Revolution."

The deep roots are probably in Aquitaine.

Do you have DNA matches in France ?

[davidqueneherve]

I read he knows Latin well and he got married quite late in life.

Those two things make me think of a priest.

Brittany was both a very Catholic and royalist area. 

[davidqueneherve]

CASSENET + Brittany + Priest

Mille prêtres du Morbihan face à la Révolution: 1789-1802 - Page 261books.google.fr › books
André Moisan · 1999 · ‎Extraits
TROUVÉ À L'INTÉRIEUR – PAGE 261
45- Pierre CASSENET - Ce vannetais , susceptible d'être interné à la date du 19 juin 1792 ( ADM , L 1455 ) , prend un passeport pour l'Espagne peu de mois après ( L 332 ) . On le dit acolyte , non encore prêtre et il est porté comme ..

So here we have a Pierre CASSENET, from Vannes, and he is not a priest yet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acolyte