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Highland / Sutherland place name
« on: Thursday 20 October 22 23:43 BST (UK) »
I imagine that this place will be somewhere near Kildonan in Sutherland, but that may be a red-herring. Any help appreciated. Transcription of Gàdhlig names seems to be singularly awful.

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Re: Highland / Sutherland place name
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 October 22 00:29 BST (UK) »
It would be useful if you could provide a snip showing more of the words in this extract.  This is so helpers can compare letters and help you.

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The first letters look like BadinvoiXX

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Re: Highland / Sutherland place name
« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 October 22 00:39 BST (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01rvn/

This shows the location around Kildonan in the first mapping series of Scotland.  (1805 on)

Often people recording locations just wrote what they heard, so nothing to do with Gaelic or whatever.  Just people dealing as best they can with unfamiliar speech and places.  Immigration records are full of interesting renderings of names.  :)

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Re: Highland / Sutherland place name
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 October 22 01:07 BST (UK) »
What was the record & when? What other docs. do you have which may give similar info?

Depending on who wrote the info. it may have sounded different to what it actually was?

Knowing the era/date may help with Maps, Vrs, Census'...but knowing who, what doc the word was written on etc. may help.

There can be many differences in old Scottish place names, it's best include dates & addresses as over the years many place names are on different Parish/County borders.

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Re: Highland / Sutherland place name
« Reply #4 on: Friday 21 October 22 02:38 BST (UK) »
There is a place on the old map I linked to, or in the series,   called Bail an Or

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Re: Highland / Sutherland place name
« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 October 22 08:33 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Thank you - on my phone now so will provide more later. This isn't Baile an Or, I'm certain of that as the Kildonan Gold Rush hadn't quite taken off yet.

The record is a death record from 1855.

There is a place called Badinloch / Badenloch nearby that would fit and I'm thinking it is probably there now as it fits within the radius of where the family were located.

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Re: Highland / Sutherland place name
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 October 22 09:11 BST (UK) »
It possibly reads Badinvoeg, but, if so, the writer means Badinvoig.

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Re: Highland / Sutherland place name
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Re: Highland / Sutherland place name
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 October 22 00:00 BST (UK) »
Could Badinvoig have meant Bad An T-seoig? See also the previous page
https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/sutherland-os-name-books-1871-1875/sutherland-volume-26/6

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Thank you; it's reassuring that you say this as I drew the same conclusion last night. I have since had a look at some resources from the local museum and the above name is recorded a few times as is this odd Anglicised form. I'm going to contact the museum directly this week to propose this theory to see if it chimes once I've had a look at the maps when I get a spare moment to see if the area marries up well with the movement of the families.

Thank you everyone for your help.