Elizabeth Dickson

[Photogirl78]

I’m wondering if anyone can help with the brick wall I’m finding myself at. I’m looking for information on my x2 great grandmother Elizabeth Dickson. All I know for certain is that she married her 1st husband James Houston on the 3 January 1865 in Lezayre before coming to Belfast and having 2 children. James passed away May 1870 and she married my x2 great grandfather Robert McBride Sept 1870z Her father is named as Edward Dickson on her first wedding certificate yet she’s using an alias of Graham and names a Samuel Graham as her father on her second naming her first child with Robert as Samuel Graham McBride on his birth certificate she puts her maiden as Dickson. I’m estimating her being born 1847 and think she was born in the Isle of Man but would love whatever information I can get on her as she’s a complete mystery

[wivenhoe]

You have two marriage certificates and one birth certificate. 

For each of these can you please list all the information....everything please....three lists.

[CaroleW]

Welcome to Rootschat

Was Elizabeth still alive in 1901?  Did she remain in Ireland?

Did she marry Robert McBride as Elizabeth Graham or Elizabeth Houston?

Is she shown as a widow on the 1870 marriage cert

[wivenhoe]

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/

St Annes Belfast Co. Antrim    10 Sep 1870   (United Church England and Ireland)

McBRIDE Robert    bachelor  labourer  23y  res  Belfast
Father: McBRIDE John         labourer

HOUSTON Elizabeth   alias  GRAHAM     widow  22y    res  Belfast
Father: GRAHAM Samuel   shipbuilder

Witnesses  Thomas  *  BELLS       Isabella HARB*T     all parties sign

(signed Elizabeth Houston alias Graham)

                    same church....same day.....10 Sep 1870
                       

BELLS Dugold    30y bachelor  Private 8th Batt.     res  Belfast
Father:  George BELLS      butcher


HILL Anne         24y    spinster   servant    res. Belfast
Father: Lawrence HILLL   land surveyor

Witnesses  George (X)  CLARKE    Isabella HARBO*T

[Photogirl78]

Hi CaroleW, she passed away 27 March 1901 in Belfast. She married Robert McBride in Belfast as Elizabeth Houston alias Graham

You have two marriage certificates and one birth certificate. 

For each of these can you please list all the information....everything please....three lists.

First marriage certificate
Elizabeth Dickson, full age, spinster, living in church st Ramsey, father Edward Dickson engineer married James Houston, full age (going by his dc he was 10 yrs older) bachelor, ship builder, north Ramsey, father William Houston ship builder.

Second marriage certificate
Elizabeth Houston alias Graham, age 22 father Samuel Graham ship builder. Robert McBride age 23 father John McBride

Birth certificate
Samuel Graham McBride, 20 June 1873, Belfast Ireland, father’s name Robert McBride, mother Elizabeth Dickson.

I’ve also got a birth certificate for Susan Houston, born in Belfast 29 April 1867, father James Houston, mother Elizabeth Dickson

[wivenhoe]

"coming to Belfast and having 2 children. James passed away May 1870 "

Can you confirm please -

Two children to Elizabeth and James HOUSTON, both children born in Belfast?

What names for these two children?

James HOUSTON died May 1870....in Belfast?

What children...names...birthplace....... do you have for children of Robert McBRIDE and Elizabeth?

[Photogirl78]

"coming to Belfast and having 2 children. James passed away May 1870 "

Can you confirm please -

Two children to Elizabeth and James HOUSTON, both children born in Belfast?

What names for these two children?

James HOUSTON died May 1870....in Belfast?

What children...names...birthplace....... do you have for children of Robert McBRIDE and Elizabeth?

James Houston died in Belfast, the 2 children to James were

Susan Houston born 1867 in Belfast and William Houston born 1869 in Belfast.

The children with Robert McBride were

Samuel Graham born 1873,
Elizabeth born 1875,
Mary Christina born 1879,
Robert born 1880,
Joseph born 1881,
Alfred born 1883,
Henry Cousins born 1885,
James Edward born 1886,
Annie Hall born 1889

I think all of the children to Robert McBride were born in Belfast though I could be wrong

[softly softly]

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"I’m estimating her being born 1847 and think she was born in the Isle of Man but would love whatever information I can get on her as she’s a complete mystery"

Is the below who you think she may be in 1851 IOM census.

Piece:   2525
Folio:   373
Page number:   15
Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship

Elizabeth Dixon36   Wife
Jane M K Dixon   7   Daughter  born England
Margaret Dixon5   Daughter
Elizabeth Dixon4   Daughter
Isabella Dixon10 Mo   Daughter
Roseinia Camble18   Servant
Mary Piercen85   


DIXON, JANE  MCKENZIE     mother's maiden name COWLEY 
GRO Reference: 1844  M Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 20  Page 993

Whilst info is speculative at present Elizabeth (Catherine) Dixon can be found in 1901 Irish census with Jane who has married Gilbert Kirker.

Probably a "red herring", if so my apologies.


Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
Gilbert Saml Kirker
52   Head of Family (Head)
Jeanie Mc K Kirker
56   Wife
Agens Elsie Kirker
16   Daughter
Elizabeth Cath Dixon   52   SisterInLaw (Sister-in-law)
Mary Reilly
20   Servant

added  late baptism?

Name   Elizabeth Catherine Dixon
Gender   Female
Baptism Date   15 Feb 1854
Baptism Place   Lezayre,Isle of Man,England
Father   Isaac Dixon
Mother   Elizabeth Cowley

John

[CaroleW]

Re my question re 1901 census above.   If she was still alive in 1901 her birthplace will be on the 1901 entry.

There are a few Elizabeth McBride’s on the Irish 1901 but none have a birthplace of IoM.