Author Topic: Pickering of Armagh (Read 1433 times)

Sandel1 · « **on:** Sunday 13 November 22 22:49 GMT (UK) »

My earliest tracing of paternal ancestry takes me to Mary Pickering who married Thomas Wanlock at Macosquin, Coleraine in 1858. Pickerings have proved very elusive to trace - not a Coleraine name. Thomas died at Farmhill, the home of the Bullick family in the early 1900s rather than at his home on Long Commons, Coleraine, where he lived with his wife - these were my g g grandparents. This perplexed me as I researched. Then I found a sister of Mary Pickering - Rebecca Pickering who lived at Ballynagg? Ballyrashane in the 1890s on death record 1898 with her sister Maria Marshall. Interesting - the paternal side has had Maria in every branch, still one around today. Maria's husband cannot be found - presumably she was widowed very early - but census shows that she was born in Co Armagh. My DNA links me to a Richard Pickering in the early 1800s, but the sisters' father was William. Now a very recent DNA match links me to Bullick of Farmhill - who were from Armagh orginally. I since found two siblings Pickering marrying two siblings Bullick - with one of the brides being Maria in 1868 in Ardmore Co Armagh. If anyone can help find the links back, and a possible explanation of g g grandfather's demise at Farmhill I would be most interested.

maddys52 · « **Reply #1 on:** Monday 14 November 22 03:36 GMT (UK) »

Hello Sandel1, you have posted on the "How to Use RootsChat" board, it may be better to ask a moderator to move your request to the Armagh board.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/armagh/

aghadowey · « **Reply #2 on:** Monday 14 November 22 20:40 GMT (UK) »

I'm not sure that Armagh is the correct board for this thread but it is very complicated and there seem to be much detail not mentioned here. Starting with what has been posted-

Quote from: Sandel1 on Sunday 13 November 22 22:49 GMT (UK)

My earliest tracing of paternal ancestry takes me to Mary Pickering who married Thomas Wanlock at Macosquin, Coleraine in 1858. Pickerings have proved very elusive to trace - not a Coleraine name. Thomas died at Farmhill, the home of the Bullick family in the early 1900s rather than at his home on Long Commons, Coleraine, where he lived with his wife - these were my g g grandparents. This perplexed me as I researched. Then I found a sister of Mary Pickering - Rebecca Pickering who lived at Ballynagg? Ballyrashane in the 1890s on death record 1898 with her sister Maria Marshall. Interesting - the paternal side has had Maria in every branch, still one around today. Maria's husband cannot be found - presumably she was widowed very early - but census shows that she was born in Co Armagh. My DNA links me to a Richard Pickering in the early 1800s, but the sisters' father was William. Now a very recent DNA match links me to Bullick of Farmhill - who were from Armagh orginally. I since found two siblings Pickering marrying two siblings Bullick - with one of the brides being Maria in 1868 in Ardmore Co Armagh. If anyone can help find the links back, and a possible explanation of g g grandfather's demise at Farmhill I would be most interested.

Marriage of Thomas Wanlock & Mary A. Pickering-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1858/09547/5461103.pdf
Death of Thomas Wanlock who died at Farmhill (Tullans townland)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05775/4632548.pdf

Rebecca Pickering did die at Ballynagg-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05815/4646516.pdf

The 1901 census for Maria Marshall does look like the place of birth was changed from Co.D... to Co.Armagh-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Knockantern/Knockantern/1519323/
However, 1911 gives her as born Co.Londonderry-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Knockantern/Tullans/590501/

aghadowey · « **Reply #3 on:** Monday 14 November 22 20:46 GMT (UK) »

Sandel1 · « **Reply #4 on:** Monday 14 November 22 21:38 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Aghadowey - we have these records already. George McNeill appears to have been an orphaned teenager who moved in with Maria Marshall, probably by then a widowed lady farmer together with her nephew, Adams known as being associated with the Wanlock family. George was witness to Maria's niece's wedding to James McLaughlin - bride was my G Grandmother Mary Jane and there is oral evidence that Mary Jane's family were closely linked to the McNeills whilst George was at war. It is the older generation pre-registration that interests me - if this was an Armagh family of Pickering how did they come to settle in Coleraine rural area - were they at Macosquin, or was perhaps Mary working at Bushtown? Who was Mr Marshall - had he a role in bringing the whole family from Armagh or perhaps just Maria - and was she related to the Maria Pickering who married Bullick, and her predecessor Maria Pickering of Newforge House - a social class above our known Pickerings. So many questions and so little material available.

aghadowey · « **Reply #5 on:** Monday 14 November 22 22:31 GMT (UK) »

As I said it's very complicated and while you may have some of this information already it looks like you haven't explored all of the connections.

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George McNeill appears to have been an orphaned teenager who moved in with Maria Marshall, probably by then a widowed lady farmer together with her nephew, Adams known as being associated with the Wanlock family.

Alexander Adams was the illegitimate son of a Sarah Jane Adams as posted earlier.

Here's the Bullick connection to Farm Hill (through Irene McCunn) and it looks like the Bullicks came from Fintona area in Co. Tyrone.

Robert Francis Bullick (c1833 Co.Tyrone?-1906), merchant, m.(1867 Portstewart) Martha McKay
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1867/11482/8220558.pdf
1901- with son James
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Mount_Charles/977057/ (Martha Bullick)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05561/4560997.pdf
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014916/005014916_00368.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Fintona/Tonnaghbane/872074/ (Martha Bullick visitor in household of William Bullick)
1. James Bullick (c1869-9 Sept.1951), woolen manufacturer m.(1894 “Farmhill”) Irene McCunn (c1871-1957) of “Farmhill” Tullans
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10568/5849930.pdf (groom- Emyvale Monaghan)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Figullar/Mullan/1636618/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Knockantern/Tullans/590495/ (Irene & 2 children at Tullans)
Bullick James of 38 Eglinton Street Portrush county Antrim retired woollen manufacturer died 9 September 1951 Probate Belfast 9 June to John Bullick farmer and retired bank manager. Effects £3888 8s. 4d.
Bullick Irene of 38 Eglinton Street Portrush county Antrim widow died 15 November 1957 at 60 Mark Street Portrush Probate Belfast 3 July to John Bullick farmer and retired bank manager. Effects £1789 13s.
a. Winifred Bullick (1895-bef.1911?)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02192/1829144.pdf
b. John Hugh F. Bullick (1902-aft.1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01920/1744197.pdf (John)
c. Irene Bullick (1907-aft.1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01685/1669786.pdf

RichardinMichigan

FYI the John H. Bullick who is mentioned above as born in 1902 died in Scotland in 1992; his youngest son, John Bullick, has taken an ancestry.com DNA test and matches both my father's sister and me with one DNA segment (21 centimorgans). My late father and I (and my aunt) are descendants of the McCunn family -- Irene May (McCunn) Bullick (1869-1957) was a 2nd cousin of my great great grandmother, Eliza Jane (Ray) Cochran whose mother was Jane (McCunn) Ray from Faughanvale parish, County Londonderry.

Richard M. Cochran, Big Rapids, Michigan

Sandel1

Richard - interesting, It is to this current John's sister that I have my match. They tell me my Grandfather may have driven the carriage when John 1902 was attending school, but that wouldn't give me a DNA match, and Grandfather was deceased by then!

Sandel1

RichardinMichigan - A long time spent pursuing the inlaws ancestry and now I have gone back to my own - and this elusive DNA match to Farmhill. Ancestry has known shown by connection by DNA to Bullick on my mother's side. They were purely North Antrim people for over 200 years so we are mystified. Bullick was from Fintona, to the south west of Lough Neagh, McCunn from just south of the Magilligan point on the map of NI. The only possible connection we see is McKinley - Mum's great grandmother was Catherine McKinley of a place called Newtowncrommelin near Ballymena. The McCunn family was founded upon the marriage of a Matty or Martha McKinley and McCunn, earliest ref I find is to he in(famous) Judge John McCunns baptism in Tamlaghtfinlagan Church, but this is some forty or fifty miles from the seat of my McKinley side at Newtowncrommelin or even at Dervock, the homestead of the ancestors of President McKinley who by family lore is supposed to be our relative.

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