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Census 1841 lookup Chigwell Essex
« on: Tuesday 06 September 05 19:09 BST (UK) »
Hi,

looking for George Windley (Winley) and his wife Hannah (nee Bradley) census 1841. According to census of 1851 (Chigwell) George was from Blackmore and Hannah from Chigwell. They were married 1830.
George born about 1801, Hannah about 1811. In 1851 they had 4 children: Mary (18), George (15), Sarah (12) and John (9).

So when were George and Hannah born? Where were they at the census of 1841? Were there any more children?
When did they die?

A lot of questions, and hopefully as many answers.

Thank you.

dutch missmarple
Wilson: Writtle Essex, Shorne Kent.
Windley: Woodford Essex, Chigwell Essex, Blackmore Essex.
Halls: Chigwell and Woodford, Essex
Ambrose and Corteling: Sri Lanka

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Re: Census 1841 lookup Chigwell Essex
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 September 05 20:36 BST (UK) »
Hi,

1841 Chigwell
Grange Hill
George Windley    50         ag lab
Hannah                 30
Hester                    9
Mary                       7
George                   4
Sarah                     1
All born in county

Also at Grange Hill
Henry Bradley           50
Mary                         45
James                       15
Henry                        15
Elizabeth                   14

Hope these help
Sue

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
E Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON.
Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME
Norfolk: TUCK
Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.

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Re: Census 1841 lookup Chigwell Essex
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 September 05 20:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue,
Thanks! I think it's them. Names and ages are a match. Except for George sr. He was 50 in 1841 and still 50 in 1851. Wishfull thinking? Could this be a slip of the pen back in 1841?

I'm not sure about the relationship of the Bradley-family and hannah.

Would you be so kind to find out where Hester Windley was at census 1851 (about 19 yrs old)? Maybe working as a servant?

Thanks again!

dutch missmarple
Wilson: Writtle Essex, Shorne Kent.
Windley: Woodford Essex, Chigwell Essex, Blackmore Essex.
Halls: Chigwell and Woodford, Essex
Ambrose and Corteling: Sri Lanka

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Re: Census 1841 lookup Chigwell Essex
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 September 05 21:17 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Sorry I don't have access to the 1851 but may have found Hester/Esther in the 1861 and 1871

1861 Woodford
George Gould         H   M   26   general dealer        b Woodford
Esther Gould          W  M   28                                  b Chigwell
Mary Ann Gould      D         1                                    b Chigwell
John Thomas Gould S        4 mths                           b Woodford

1871
Woodford Bridge
George Gould        H   M    34  licensed victualler    b Chigwell
Esther Gould         W   M    38                                b Woodford Bridge
Hannah Gould       D           18                                 b Chigwell
Mary Ann              D            11                                b  Chigwell
John Thomas         S            10                                b Woodford Bridge
George                  S             8                                 b       "           "
Henry                    S             6                                 b       "           "
Esther                   D             4                                 b      "             "

I think that the ennumerator has mis transcribed the places of birth for George and Esther. I also think that Hannah is the Hannah Windley who appears on the 1861 census with her granny also Hannah Windley.

What do you think.... a leap too far perhaps?

Best wishes Sue

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
E Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON.
Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME
Norfolk: TUCK
Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.


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Re: Census 1841 lookup Chigwell Essex
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 September 05 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue,
No, I think you're absolutely right! If the Hannah was with her granny in 1861, she must have been an ill. child. But why was her name Gould in 1871? Did George adopt her?
will have to find out now when Esther and George were married.
Thanks again!

dutch missmarple
Wilson: Writtle Essex, Shorne Kent.
Windley: Woodford Essex, Chigwell Essex, Blackmore Essex.
Halls: Chigwell and Woodford, Essex
Ambrose and Corteling: Sri Lanka

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Re: Census 1841 lookup Chigwell Essex
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 06 September 05 21:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I think that illegitimate children often just took on the married name of their mother with no formal adoption process. After all it is not illegal to take any name you wish.

I have certainly encountered this same situation several times in my own research.

Sue

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
E Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON.
Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME
Norfolk: TUCK
Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.

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Re: Census 1841 lookup Chigwell Essex
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 September 05 21:45 BST (UK) »
Tried to post this earlier but it appears to have vanished into the ether??

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Jun 1876    West Ham             4a   129
Hannah Windley Gould
married
John Benjamin Baker  OR    John Maughfling
Unfortunately I can't find Hannah on the 1881 to confirm her marriage

Sue

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
E Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON.
Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME
Norfolk: TUCK
Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.