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Offline Glen in Tinsel Kni

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Names on census
« on: Thursday 01 December 22 03:07 GMT (UK) »
I'm struggling to make sense of the names versus the transcription in this census

The transcriptions for the last 3 names are;
#3 Josephine Hay
#4 Arthur Hay
#5 Ethel Hay

I've worked out that Arthur L Doyle married Ethel Ryan in 1917 in Ecclesall Bierlow. Ethel should be orn around 1890 but there doesn't seem to be a birth ref to match.

It's actually George Hay I'm interested in, he is serving with the Indian Army.  I think I have him in 1911, sergeant, age 30, married, Royal Engineers, occ Printer, b Hartlepool, Durham.
Serving with Head Quarters Staff, North China Command, Tientsin
I can't be sure it's the same man in both census and can't pin down a marriage. there certainly isn't a George Hay marriage to anyone with the surname of Ryan in the E/W bmd index and I'm very dubious that the name of Josephine is correctly transcribed here but can't make it out.


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Re: Names on census
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 December 22 03:17 GMT (UK) »
There are few examples of first and second names joined up on this page so what looks like one long name, may be more, so with that in mind my first thought is:

Rose Derfil Bray Hay daughter
Arthur Lawton Doyle visitor
Ethel Doyle visitor

“Rose’s” name is likely to be incorrect, but I don’t think the name is Josephine, possibly Rose something else?

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Re: Names on census
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 December 22 03:48 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Ruskie, I initially thought Rose D_____ Bray HAY.

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Re: Names on census
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 December 22 03:55 GMT (UK) »
BRAY, ROSE  D...      
Mother's maiden surname: TURVEY     
GRO Reference: 1888  D Quarter in KINGS NORTON  Volume 06C  Page 460

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Births Dec 1888

BRAY, Rose Derfel   
King's N.    6c   460

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Re: Names on census
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 December 22 04:03 GMT (UK) »
They were married in China. 20 Dec 1910

George Hay, sargeant in royal engineers, father deceased (Joseph Hay)


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Re: Names on census
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 December 22 04:11 GMT (UK) »
This is a large clip, to encompass the 5 times the name of the place in China where they married.

Tien.... something!

Rose's dad was William Thomas Ryan, chartered acct.


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Re: Names on census
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 December 22 04:15 GMT (UK) »
That's great bbart. Was just about to post this reference from familysearch. They have transcribed the place as Tianjin.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68FL-2NLY

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Re: Names on census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 December 22 04:15 GMT (UK) »
It’s written as Tientsin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianjin

Nice finds everyone.  :)

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Re: Names on census
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 December 22 04:20 GMT (UK) »
Apologies - I should have said: from familysearch:
"Marriage Place   Tianjin, China
Marriage Place (Original)   TIENTSIN, CHINA"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianjin