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Thomas Rowles
« on: Sunday 04 December 22 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Seeking the birth/baptism of Thomas Rowles in Durham area circa 1884.
He was the son of John and Mary Jane Rowles.
Any help much appreciated.

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Re: Thomas Rowles
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 December 22 17:22 GMT (UK) »
from Durham Records Online

Location: Sherburn House, County Durham
Church: Sherburn Hospital (Christ's Hospital in Sherburn)
Denomination: Anglican
7 Dec 1884 Thomas Rowles, of Whitwell, son of John (miner) & Jane Rowles
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Re: Thomas Rowles
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 December 22 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Whitwell and Sherburn House were extra-parochial places in County Durham (i.e. they did not belong to any parish). They both have Wikipedia pages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitwell_House?wprov=sfti1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherburn_Hospital?wprov=sfti1
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Re: Thomas Rowles
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 December 22 18:30 GMT (UK) »
His actual birth was registered Q/E Dec 1884 - Durham Registration District, Volume 10a, Page 421.

According to the GRO Index, his mother's maiden name was Smith.

However the only marriage I can see with a similar surname to Rowles in the County of Durham is in 1874 of a John ROW to a Mary ANN Smith.

Hence this birth may not be the correct one.
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Re: Thomas Rowles
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 December 22 19:18 GMT (UK) »
I think the birth is the correct one.
The family appear in various Censuses and all the children have mmn Smith on the GRO ref. However John Rowles married Mary Jane Fretter Sep 1874 Dutham 10a 465.

In 1871 Mary J S Fretter is with parents Joseph Fretter and Jane nee Robson along with brothers John Smith Fretter and Joseph S Fretter. In 1881 Joseph is with John and Mary Jane listed as Joseph Smith brother in law.

I don't have a clue as to where or why the name Smith is used.


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Re: Thomas Rowles
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 December 22 19:32 GMT (UK) »
One more baptism at Sherburn Hospital:
George 21 Dec 1890, other details the same. George appears in the 1891 census entry for the family, age 0, but his death is recorded in Q2 1891.
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Re: Thomas Rowles
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 December 22 20:07 GMT (UK) »
Good finds Emeltom and Alan.

How VERY odd about the Smith maiden name. I wondered if Mary Jane had perhaps been 'adopted' by the Fretter family - but she wasn't. There is a birth for a Mary Jane Fretter.

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Re: Thomas Rowles
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 December 22 20:32 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if Joseph Fretter is also known as Smith? I can;t find him under the Fretter surname except for the marriage and 1871 census

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Re: Thomas Rowles
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 December 22 20:44 GMT (UK) »
1861? Whitworth

Joseph Smith    30    Northamptonshire
Jane Smith   24
Mary Jane Smith    4    
John Smith    9/12    
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