Seeking info: Alexander Joass -farmer at Burnside- married Helen Ross 23/04/1774

[Alan of Kaslo]

Elizabeth Bremner , step-daughter of Alexander Joass 1756 died in 1887 aged 77. She married a Lawrance but try as I may I could not find a marriage...perhaps it's lost or took place outside of Scotland.

BREMNER
ELIZABETH
77
MORRISON
F
1887
153 / 2 / 38
Portsoy

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LAWRANCE
ELIZABETH
77
MORRISON
F
1887
153 / 2 / 38
Portsoy

[Alan of Kaslo]

A bunch of clues point to this being the Lawrance that Elizabeth Brember married ...

1851 census Banffshire  Lawrance:

https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59027d76e9379091b126f438/elizabeth-lawrance-1851-banffshire-fordyce-1811-?locale=en

[PriceNash]

Thank you Alan, a wealth of information there.

[Forfarian]

According to the will interpretation: Margaret Morrison was previously married but they don't mention a previous marriage for Alexander. That doesn't mean he wasn't married though...just that the will doesn't mention a first wife. Perhaps she had already passed some years previous. 

As there was, at that time, no practical way of getting divorced (it required an Act of Parliament so was out of reach of all but the wealthiest) she has to have died before he married Margaret Morrison.

There's a book, Banffshire Schools and Schoolmasters. I own a copy but can't find it. It might be worth searching to see if it's been digitised and put online.

[Forfarian]

Elizabeth Bremner , step-daughter of Alexander Joass 1756 died in 1887 aged 77. She married a Lawrance but try as I may I could not find a marriage...perhaps it's lost or took place outside of Scotland.

It could be in the Episcopal Church records of Portsoy, some of which have survived but are not on Scotland's People. I believe that they are held in the Aberdeen Diocesan Archive but I cannot be certain whether or not the registers for the dates of interest survive.

[Alan of Kaslo]

Thanks Forfarian! Appreciated.

It used to bug me how badly ancestry wanted me to put the schoolmaster in my tree as father of Walter Joass 1780 ... they repeatedly recommended it and also Ann Lumsden as being his wife. I rejected it for years. Here's proof to the contrary.

This birth in 1781 (same time as Walter Joass) shows the schoolmaster witnessing a birth of a child named Alexander to Alexander Joass of Bauds and wife Ann Lumsden.

No matter how small I resize the doc , I can't seem to post it...so I have to link to my google drive to share it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wog27GZVp5RWlhBVxxHuQv7KiGdEFfLU/view?usp=sharing

[Alan of Kaslo]

Alexander Craig's name comes up a bunch. He witnesses decades of births for the Joass familys of Burnside. Turns out he married a Joass named Katherine and had kids.


Same birth year as the schoolmaster 1756:

CRAIG WILLIAM
ALEXANDER CRAIG/KATHERINE JOSS
M
19/08/1756
155
10 / 239
Gamrie and Macduff

I'm thinking that Katherine Joass might be sister to Alexander Joass farmer of Burnside 173?-1802 (son of Beatrice Addison and Alexander Joass senior).

Has anyone found any links to Katherine Joass and the branch of Joasses we have been discussing?

[Alan of Kaslo]

Brainflash*

It's quite possible that Alexander Joass schoolmaster had no children ... therefore no one could claim lineage from him. 

Is there any proof he married  before Margaret Morrison or procreated?

[Forfarian]

It used to bug me how badly ancestry wanted me to put the schoolmaster in my tree as father of Walter Joass 1780 ... they repeatedly recommended it and also Ann Lumsden as being his wife. I rejected it for years.

You really don't want to get me started on the evils of Ancestry.