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Australian furniture can anyone help
« on: Saturday 17 December 22 04:11 GMT (UK) »
I have got Grandmas grandmas china cabinet
Can anyone give me a way of dating it?
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Re: Australian furniture can anyone help
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 December 22 04:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi, a lot can be told by the type of hinges, screws if used and dowels. Is there any makers marks on it anywhere? Maybe take a couple of photos and contact a antique appraiser or dealer and see if they can tell you a era it maybe from.

Sorry can't be of any more help.

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 December 22 04:35 GMT (UK) »
You have got me on the right track. I didnt think of the fittings.

I only know that my Sons grandma is 96 and she always said it was her grandmas.

Extensive family history says that both her Grandmas were married in Australia.

When I figure out how - I will upload a photo
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Re: Australian furniture can anyone help
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 December 22 04:50 GMT (UK) »
I saw a antique cupboard once that had hinges down every side of it, apparently it was so it could fold down flat to transport in the ships from England to here. Bit like our modern day flat pack furniture. I was going to check out if this was so or if the fella was just telling a yarn but never checked it out, now you got me wondering about it again  ;D


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Re: Australian furniture can anyone help
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 December 22 13:17 GMT (UK) »
If you would like some opinions you should post a picture.

Dating furniture can be difficult due to styles not changing that often. When was grandmother’s grandmother born? Might the cabinet have been a wedding gift?

What wood is it made from? (the wood might be a clue to country of origin). A lot of firntiture came from England. Is it solid wood or veneer? Latches and hinges are worth photographing as suggested. Also joints, shelf supports, decorative inlay or other features ….

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Re: Australian furniture can anyone help
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 December 22 08:52 GMT (UK) »
One REALLY FAST way to date furniture is to look for a furniture sticker/stamp/branding.

In the 1860s - the 1880s especially, furniture manufacturers HAD TO put a specific label in every piece of furniture - to say whether the workers were Chinese or European - because there were concerns over cheap labour costs for some immigrants. 

When there is a dining chair, the label is usually covered by the cushion - but an easy find.

Look at the legs of the furniture - the type of wood too.  Leg styles are indicative of an era.

Cabinets were a trend too - there were specific styles for different eras.  You can literally google - cabinet 1800s Australia and you may find something similar. 

You can also date it with a little logic - no intention of being rude...   but you will know grandmothers grandmothers date of birth approx, you will know her date of death.  Most women were only given furniture as a wedding gift or when someone passed, so you can add 20 years to her birth year and you will narrow down the range for the year the cabinet was made.
IRELAND....
KELLY... plus Hamilton, McCormack, Dwyer, Condon, Flynn, Mahon, Keane, Quinn, Fox, Farrell, Lynch,  Moore, Hartigan, Martin....  Dwyer, Condon, Walsh, Curtin, Ryan.....
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Johnson, Berryman, Garland, Caudwell, Sloss, Timsbury , Boddy, Dwyer, Kelly, Condon....

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Re: Australian furniture can anyone help
« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 December 22 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Photo requested. Without seeing the item we can only speculate and may be way off the mark.

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Re: Australian furniture can anyone help
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 December 22 03:23 GMT (UK) »
Ruskie - I know - idiot me cant find a way to upload a photo

Ada - thank you for your kind words. I think you have got it right. I am now going through old newspaper articles (thanks TROV)

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 December 22 09:27 GMT (UK) »
Ruskie - I know - idiot me cant find a way to upload a photo

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