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Thomas Connor of Bridgeton.
« on: Thursday 22 December 22 19:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,
I'm trying to establish the birthplace of Thomas Connor,
he is listed in the 1901 census as living in 51 Dale street Bridgeton, age 39, born in Ireland, wife Bridget, Daughters Annie and Heather?
I can't seem to find the family in later census returns,
I was hoping to find him in the 1921 census to establish a more detailed place of birth and to tie up a few loose ends in this part of my research.
I found a record of his Marriage to Bridget in 1898, and also a mention in the 1881 census when he was living with his parents in Reid street Bridgeton.
Any help and suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: Thomas Connor of Bridgeton.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 December 22 21:08 GMT (UK) »
I see from the 1881 census that Thomas had brothers, Patrick and Owen, and sisters, Mary and Annie.  They were all born in Glasgow, so their birth certificates will give the date and place of their parents' marriage. That would help pinpoint an area in Ireland.

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Re: Thomas Connor of Bridgeton.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 December 22 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Bridget was a second wife.   Should daughter "Heather" be Martha?  See 1891 entry - wife is Martha b Glasgow.  Both children you mention are to his first marriage

Death of Martha Connor aged 32 mmn Broadshane 1897 Bridgeton

Marriage 1898 Thomas Connor to Bridget Gillespie
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Re: Thomas Connor of Bridgeton.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 December 22 09:49 GMT (UK) »
I see from the 1881 census that Thomas had brothers, Patrick and Owen, and sisters, Mary and Annie.  They were all born in Glasgow, so their birth certificates will give the date and place of their parents' marriage. That would help pinpoint an area in Ireland.

Thanks GR2,
Thomas' father Owen was married twice, first wife was Ann Hoy, I presume they married in Ireland and had Thomas before they moved to Glasgow, second wife was Elizabeth Boyd who is the mother of the rest of the children, all born in Glasgow. place and date of marriage, 1873, High Church Glasgow.
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Re: Thomas Connor of Bridgeton.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 December 22 09:55 GMT (UK) »
Just to confirm previous post.

In 1881 Owen’s wife was Elizabeth age 30, to young to be the mother of Thomas, however census below notes Ann but no death record in Glasgow?

1871 - 10 Dempster St. Glasgoe
Owen Connor   30   Head
Ann Connor   30   Wife
Thomas Connor   11   Son
Patrick Connor   5   Son
Mary Connor   1   Daur (Daughter)

I have checked for a marriage for Owen on
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie sadly none.

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Re: Thomas Connor of Bridgeton.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 December 22 10:12 GMT (UK) »
Just to confirm previous post.

In 1881 Owen’s wife was Elizabeth age 30, to young to be the mother of Thomas, however census below notes Ann but no death record in Glasgow?

1871 - 10 Dempster St. Glasgoe
Owen Connor   30   Head
Ann Connor   30   Wife
Thomas Connor   11   Son
Patrick Connor   5   Son
Mary Connor   1   Daur (Daughter)

I have checked for a marriage for Owen on
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie sadly none.

Colin
Thanks Colin,
Owens first wife was Ann Hoy,(Thomas' mother), his second wife was Elizabeth Boyd.

Bridget was a second wife.   Should daughter "Heather" be Martha?  See 1891 entry - wife is Martha b Glasgow.  Both children you mention are to his first marriage

Death of Martha Connor aged 32 mmn Broadshane 1897 Bridgeton

Marriage 1898 Thomas Connor to Bridget Gillespie
Thanks CaroleW,
You're correct with Martha, I looked up the birth of Martha junior in 1890, I knew he was married twice from his marriage cert entry to Bridget as widower.

Thanks Colin,
Owens first wife was Ann Hoy (Thomas' mother), his second wife was Elizabeth Boyd.
Owen died in 1895 at Reid street, Bridgeton.
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Re: Thomas Connor of Bridgeton.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 December 22 19:47 GMT (UK) »
Doch, have you confirmed Owen and Anna's parents from their death regs? It would give you more names to search for clues.

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Re: Thomas Connor of Bridgeton.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 23 December 22 19:51 GMT (UK) »
From the death index, Anna's mother's maiden name not shown (it may not be recorded). Owen shows his mother as Hunter.

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Re: Thomas Connor of Bridgeton.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 December 22 20:22 GMT (UK) »
From the death index, Anna's mother's maiden name not shown (it may not be recorded). Owen shows his mother as Hunter.

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Owens mothers maiden name is Winters, S.P. has indexed it as Hunter, his father is listed as Thomas Connor, farm labourer, deceased.
I tried to find out if Owen had any siblings in Glasgow at the time of the 1921 Census, i found a Thomas Connor living in Bridgeton with a birthplace of County Monaghan, i did a search of Connor with mothers maiden name of winters and got a match for Thomas( Owens brother),(too many Thomas' in this family). i'm hoping to find a townland in Monaghan for the Connors but owen died before the 1921 Census and I can't locate his son since the 1901 Census.
I did a search for Ann's death cert but couldn't find a match, the nearest i could see was aged 36 in Central district.
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