Edwin Woodhouse Angelina Hamlin

[maddys52]

Excellent research Lu!

Curious that a death for Edwin is difficult to find, though I guess it's possible he died at sea? Definitely nothing even remotely like Edwin/Edward or WOODHOUSE on the NSW death register for 19 June 1907.

[Lucy2]

Excellent research Lu!

Curious that a death for Edwin is difficult to find, though I guess it's possible he died at sea? Definitely nothing even remotely like Edwin/Edward or WOODHOUSE on the NSW death register for 19 June 1907.

Thanks maddy.      Curiouser and curiouser ... 

I couldn't find a death anywhere*, either.   
Always possible that Angelina may have used the "seven years apart" / "husband gone 7 years"  card, in order to remarry in 1908 ?   (Although she was chasing him up for debts as late as 1902).

   ~   Lu

* There is an Edwin WOODHOUSE 1922  VIC death  (b. 1856-59 -- m. 1897 both AUS) ... but his occupation was "artist" (as was that of his father before him).  WRONG person.   

[sparrett]

Hi,
Observation 
On the shipping list from the newspaper liked by Maddy in Reply#11 there is also Mr. William HAMLIN.
Coincidence of names or a relative?

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18791126.2.7?items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=+lena+hamlin&snippet=true

Sue

[Lucy2]

Hi,
Observation 
On the shipping list from the newspaper liked by Maddy in Reply#11 there is also Mr. William HAMLIN.
Coincidence of names or a relative?

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18791126.2.7?items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=+lena+hamlin&snippet=true

Sue

Seems James HAMLIN, the father of Angelina, was also in New Zealand  >

Not what you are looking for but the second marriage of "Lena"......

1908 marriage- Thomas -Woodhouse

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/HNS19080430.2.9?end_date=31-12-1912&phrase=2&query=james+hamlin&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1879&type=ARTICLE


Minniehaha.

added :   Angelina Isabella Eade HAMLIN was born NZ - 1860 - parents: Isabella and James.      The "Fernglen" arrived 1879, was said to have been conveying 225 emigrants with 6 persons in saloon class (Miss Lena HAMLIN was in saloon).   If NZ-born then you're not classified as an emigrant to your own country, so seems possible that this Lena could be "Angelina", who may have taken a trip to "the old country" and was retuning to NZ    Unsure about the William HAMLIN on this voyage.

[Lucy2]

Some extra bits which were not covered previously:

Was Angelina WOODHOUSE really a widow at time of her second marriage ??

*  Her second husband Percy THOMAS testified that Angelina was a widow at the time of their marriage in 1908.

[The date of Angelina's widowhood, would be included in the Registrar's copy (printout copy) of her 1908 NZ marriage record. ]

*   Is this 1908 marriage record, maybe the source of the date "19 June 1907" (being death of Edwin WOODHOUSE) 

Have now found there are 50 + trees in the name of Percy THOMAS - born Clarence, Tasmania - 1863 -- died Suva, Fiji, 1933.      Again, there's no information from a marriage record.  Only one or two have information sources recorded in respect of Angelina.

   ~  Lu

[CHERAN]

Wow you have given me so much info

I did know about the 3 girls, but given that at least was born during the time Agelina was married to Edwin, i hadn't really concertrated on them at all.... a bit of a mystery there I think.

https://www.ancestry.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/6760688:7619?tid=&pid=&queryId=81b4b0990843563647bb26b236948868&_phsrc=fzL315&_phstart=successSource

This is the 1871 census when Angelina along with her mother Isabella, her brother Benjamin, her Brother Sydney H E, her Brother George WAD, (I have this brother as William Arthur George Donne Hamlin) and her brother Francis Charles Pratt  so probably her brother William with her on her return...

I think the next step will be to purchase the Marriage Certificate.  Will that show father's names same as Aus, Eng in that era..

Mr Woodhouse is certainly elusive.   I can find one in England lodger at the Salvation Army and I am looking at one whose age may fit, whose father was Marina in 1871...   I am clutching at straws now though.

I will go over all the information this afternoon


Thanks again!  I couldn't have got there without you all!!!!

Cheran

[garstonite]

Percy had 4 children through a previous marriage
https://gw.geneanet.org/wendyhnz?lang=en&p=percy&n=thomas&oc=1
so
his first wife - Miliana Silimaibau -their last child of 4 born 1890 .... Percys 1st child with Angelina was 1896 ...
see if you can find a death in Fiji for Miliana between 1890-1896 ... or - did Percy and Angelina marry as bigamists ??
have you ever heard of Wendy Howard ?   she has a couple of trees on Percy and Angelina - but nothing on Edwin
 

[Lucy2]

I think the next step will be to purchase the Marriage Certificate.  Will that show father's names same as Aus, Eng in that era..

Hi Cheran

If you are going to purchase the marriage record of Angelina HAMLIN and Edwin WOODHOUSE - Year 1889, then it is the "printout"  (not a certificate) which you order.   Explained here >
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/paymentsandproducts

And at the following link you can see what information you can expect (yes, there's provision for names of both mother and father to be included in a marriage record of that era.)   >
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=259108.0

*   Can I ask ... is it the son (James E.), of Angelina and Edwin WOODHOUSE, you are following ?

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Percy had 4 children through a previous marriage
https://gw.geneanet.org/wendyhnz?lang=en&p=percy&n=thomas&oc=1

see if you can find a death in Fiji for Miliana between 1890-1896 ... or - did Percy and Angelina marry as bigamists ??

have you ever heard of Wendy Howard ?   she has a couple of trees on Percy and Angelina - but nothing on Edwin
 

Good find garstonite. 

I hadn't really focused too much on Percy THOMAS (I got somewhat entangled with the others  ).
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Think I have found the WW1 Army file for the son of Percy ... and whilst it doesn't record names of his next-of-kin, it seems more likely than not to be the correct George THOMAS :
Born: Fiji  /  on 28 July 1891 /  Physical : dark complexion - brown eyes - black hair /  Enlisted for NZ Army at Wanganui (Taranaki province) on 13 August 1814 :    Registration for Compulsory military training - at Eltham (Taranaki) - this was very near to where his father and Angelina had lived. 
added:     From another resource = NZ Army WW1 Nominal Roll - dated 15 August 1914 to 31 December 1915 -
George THOMAS - Reg #  10/517* -  residing at Wanganui - Next-of- : Kin :  Percy THOMAS (father), Suva, Fiji
https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE9914779

[The Reg # allocated was struck through on one page on file and replaced with "15/517 a" ]

     ~   Lu