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Re: Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 07 February 23 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Here is Ann's death notice in the Durham County Advertiser 18th Dec 1891

At Trimdon Grange Colliery, 14th inst, Ann, widow of the late, Mr M Forbes, miner, aged 68 years.

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Re: Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?
« Reply #82 on: Tuesday 07 February 23 17:30 GMT (UK) »
As I have a lot of credits on Durham Records Online I couldn't resist getting the Michael Forbes/ Ann Parkinson 1841 marriage record  :-X

13th March 1841 at St Laurence, Pittington.
Michael Forbes, full age, widower, coal miner of New Pittington, father James Forbes, shoemaker
Ann Parkinson, minor, spinster of New Pittington, father John Parkinson, coal miner

Witnesses James Richardson & Edward Bell.

Michael was a widower. This might be his first marriage (r-h page, middle entry)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6L24-G9C?i=920&cc=1309819&cat=1808387

No Storeys to be seen there  :-\
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Re: Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?
« Reply #83 on: Tuesday 07 February 23 17:46 GMT (UK) »
I do hope someone has a big sheet of paper to record all these various records now discovered.

From a tree
James Forbes married Margaret McGregor and she died in 1939.

In 1841 - previously mentioned, he is with wife Ann - later Nancy in 1851.
There are step children ‘Grey’ but I think her maiden name was Aisbett or similar. They have a child- Aisbett Forbes in 1849

There is a child James Forbes in these censuses - born abt 1837.

Free BMD has a marriage 1860, Auckland
James McGregor Forbes and Ann Coates.

1861 , Coundon, Auckland
Transcribed as Stong
There is a note attached - James McGregor Forbes

However, looking at the census it looks like Story

The child Margaret Ann , 5 months was registered as Forbes.

Sorry this is so longwinded but I wanted to give background.

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Re: Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?
« Reply #84 on: Tuesday 07 February 23 18:00 GMT (UK) »
there is a military record for a James Forbes born Gateshead. He was a private in Captain William Covell's company in the First Royal Regiment of Veterans.
He had been in the 60th Foot Regiment 1806-1815 and then the Veterans 5 Oct 1815 to 24 Jun 1816. By this time, he had a pulmonic complaint and a gunshot wound in the left thigh and foot received 21 June 1813 at Vittoria.
Described as about 30 years of age, 5 Ft 712, light brown hair, blue eyes, fair complexion. By trade a shoemaker.

https://www.britishbattles.com/peninsular-war/battle-of-vitoria/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?
« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 07 February 23 18:06 GMT (UK) »

1861 , Coundon, Auckland
Transcribed as Stong
There is a note attached - James McGregor Forbes

However, looking at the census it looks like Story

The child Margaret Ann , 5 months was registered as Forbes.


It looks very much like Storey to me.
(RG 9/3709/51/39)

What is more, James senior appears to be in Coundon as well - as James Storey.

Take a look at RG 9/3709/50/37.

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I think her maiden name was Aisbett or similar. They have a child- Aisbett Forbes in 1849

Aisbett seems to be Nazibeth Storey in 1861

James's mother in law Ann Aisbett is there as well in 1861.

There are other 'Storey' children with James senior in 1861. One of them is Alice Storey. her birth is registered as Alice Forbes, mother's maiden surname Aisbett.

What a tangled web. Another Forbes family also using the surname Storey.



 
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Re: Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?
« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 07 February 23 18:15 GMT (UK) »
there is a military record for a James Forbes born Gateshead. He was a private in Captain William Covell's company in the First Royal Regiment of Veterans.
He had been in the 60th Foot Regiment 1806-1815 and then the Veterans 5 Oct 1815 to 24 Jun 1816. By this time, he had a pulmonic complaint and a gunshot wound in the left thigh and foot received 21 June 1813 at Vittoria.
Described as about 30 years of age, 5 Ft 712, light brown hair, blue eyes, fair complexion. By trade a shoemaker.

https://www.britishbattles.com/peninsular-war/battle-of-vitoria/

That’s great. I mentioned it earlier but could not access the record. It seems to fit!
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Re: Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?
« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 07 February 23 18:18 GMT (UK) »
I agree Jen, it’s very tangled.

I feel I should apologise for my doubts re Storey in previous posts.
Sorry Seelife.
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Re: Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 07 February 23 23:27 GMT (UK) »
I have just read through all the latest posts. Wow, thank you  millmoor Heywood osprey jen and others. What increasable work. I have started organising to add Forbes on wikitree to help add depth to the Martin/Mary stuff. These finds are super useful.
It does now seem like there is a link between the names. i may try to patch it into excel. This tangle surpasses any previous I've had. Think I need to reread this a few times.....
Winn, Wynne, Wynd, Wind, Winde

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Re: Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?
« Reply #89 on: Wednesday 08 February 23 02:32 GMT (UK) »
I've only discovered this thread but found it to be one of the most interesting & intriguing as well as the fantastic research & input of some well known researchers on RC.

I think DNA may hold some clues too.

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