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William Kelly and family, Berwick St John
« on: Tuesday 21 February 23 15:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

Wonder if anyone is researching this family - there is a second marriage I can't pin down, and they seem to change their names and move around quite a bit. I'd be really interested to hear from anyone connected to the family or anyone who fancies checking that I'm not going mad!

William Kelly was born in 1848 in Berwick St John. He first appears in the 1851 census living on Church Street, with his parents, William, an agricultural labourer, and Emily. William has a younger brother, Charles, and a sister, Mary, who is just five months old.
 
By 1861, there have ben several additions to the family with William, Charles and Mary now having other younger siblings: Henry, Ann, Ruth, and Emily. William, aged thirteen, is shown as working as an agricultural labourer.
 
William married Mary Hilier on 28 July 1869.
In 1881 he is living with wife Mary in Bristol and working as a chocolate maker. The couple live at 10, Wells Street, which they share with four members of the Davis family.
 
Between 1881 and 1884, Mary died. William later married  and with his second wife had children William, Ruth, John, Jake, and Ambrose. His second wife is caled variously Amelia, Mary, and variations, with her place of birth varying from 'at sea' to not known.
 
The 1891 census shows the family back in Berwick St John, with Willian an agricultural labourer, wife Amelia, and Lilian, William, and Ruth.
The 1901 census reveals a significant change for the family who are now in London and living at 167, Stamford Street, Lambeth.
 
The census return shows William as a labourer. His wife, listed here as Amelia, is a sick nurse, and son John, a shop errand boy. The various birth places of the family matches their movements in the previous censuses, with son William born in Wiltshire, Ruth in Sutton, Surrey, and Ambrose in London.
By 1911 the family have moved again, and are now in Devizes.
 
William is a farm labourer; Amelia is still a nurse, and both sons, John and Ambrose, are at home.
 
In 1921, Ambrose is at home with his parents, who are still living in Devizes.

However, their son John's service records show the family at Mill House, Melksham, and William and his wife feature in a newspaper article in 1911 also at that address but she is now called Mary, but still noted as a nurse.


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Re: William Kelly and family, Berwick St John
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 February 23 15:23 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Amelia's maiden name was Dawe:

KELLY, RUTH  AMELIA MADELINE    DAWE 
GRO Reference: 1888  D Quarter in TISBURY  Volume 05A  Page 187

KELLY, JOHN       DAWE 
GRO Reference: 1893  J Quarter in EPSOM  Volume 02A  Page 12

KELLY, AMBROSE  DAWE     DAWE 
GRO Reference: 1896  J Quarter in EPSOM  Volume 02A  Page 8

There is a marriage between a William Kelly and an Emily Amelia Dawe in 1883 in Bath.

Queenie  :)
Fidler - West Ilsley, Berkshire
Hamlin/Hamlyn - Long Sutton & Martock, Somerset
Head - Marlborough & Alton Priors, Wiltshire
Minson - Kingstone, Somerset/Symondsbury, Dorset
Owsley - Buckland St Mary, Somerset
Pyke - (West) Weeke/Wick, Pewsey, Wiltshire
Salisbury - Dowlish Wake/West Dowlish, Somerset

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Re: William Kelly and family, Berwick St John
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 October 23 07:02 BST (UK) »
I’ve also been investigating the Kelly family with not such success. My grandmother was Ellen Kelly born in Wiltshire in 1885. She married in Portsea in 1900.her marriage certificate lists James kelly
As her father living at 14 Trevor street Portsmouth. I. The 1901 census she is living in Highland
Road two children Nellie born Berwick St John and Charles born Ludwall, moved around a lot
I’ve been told her family lived I. Wiltshire and they were also agricultural labourers, her family also
Lived in the Eastney area of Portsmouth






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Re: William Kelly and family, Berwick St John
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 October 23 07:55 BST (UK) »
Born 1885
married 1900 she would have been 15 years old?

1901 she has 2 children Nellie and Charles ?

Who did she marry in 1900?


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Re: William Kelly and family, Berwick St John
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 October 23 08:28 BST (UK) »
Sorry she was 25 1875, 2 children prior to 1900 and 6 after 1900. She married Harry Bury

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Re: William Kelly and family, Berwick St John
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 October 23 08:50 BST (UK) »
The baptism of sons Arthur Herbert Bury born 9 September 1907 and Edward Broadway Bury born 14 December 1909
were both on 11 March 1910 at the Royal Marine's Church Eastney

Father was a Gunner in the Royal Marine's

Which would mean moving from one barracks to another every few years.

Ref: ancestry

So was her father also in the Army or Marines ??

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Re: William Kelly and family, Berwick St John
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 October 23 09:01 BST (UK) »
They lived in Highland place and then moved to 11 Adair Road Eastney they were there for a number of years before moving to Henderson Road. Her fathers occupation is listed as Carman on her marriage certificate

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Re: William Kelly and family, Berwick St John
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 October 23 09:12 BST (UK) »
Looking at census 1901/1911/1921

1901 and 1921 she was born Tisbury Wiltshire

GRO Index

1875 Tisbury, Ellen Kelly illegitimate reg. March quarter vol. 05A page 228

I think she made up her fathers name. You can get a Jpeg copy for £2.50

There is an Ellen Louisa Kelly 1877 she is also illegitimate

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Re: William Kelly and family, Berwick St John
« Reply #8 on: Friday 27 October 23 09:16 BST (UK) »
Register of Tisbury Wiltshire

Sarah Ann Kelly
Ellen Kelly

both baptised 7 April 1875 mother Eliza Kelly servant abode Tisbury Union

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Sarah Ann Kelly was registered 1871 Tisbury March Quarter illegitimate