Welsh emigrants c 1900s

[wilcoxon]

John Bowyer / Boyer Phillips born 1875 sailed to South Africa from Southampton on the Grantully Castle in April 1910.
His relative William Phillips b c 1875 was already there before 1902 when he came home for a visit.
Both were born in Rhosllanerchrugog,  Denbighshire,  Wales.
This information is from Newspaper articles.
I would like to find more. Where did they go.
Thanks

[wilcoxon]

John Bowyer / Boyer Phillips born 1875 sailed to South Africa from Southampton on the Grantully Castle in April 1910.
His relative William Phillips b c 1875 was already there before 1902 when he came home for a visit.
Both were born in Rhosllanerchrugog,  Denbighshire,  Wales.
This information is from Newspaper articles.
I would like to find more. Where did they go.
Thanks

1902 should be 1909.

[brigidmac]

Bumping this post up to top of boards so I can find it later
+ Share links that were useful me in south Africa links

Do you know about their proffessions or their father's + siblings professions .

Many emigrants went to work on railway construction and mines at that time

My realities sailed back and forth several time
For example to baptise children in UK

not sure why they didn't do that in South Africa
And for sisters &  father's funeral

So worth looking at shipping records
+ Their wider family ..you may find someone from a younger generation going out to join them

The more information you give the easier it is for us to halo

Do you have any addresses ?

[wilcoxon]

They were all coal miners back to the 1840s.
John Boyer Phillips was single in 1901 and no marriage in UK has been found. Same for William,  but he was in 1891 census but missing after that.
A John B Phillips of the right age returned from Natal in 1938. Address in Rhosllanerchrugog.
I can't find him in 1939 UK register or a death. 
Did he return to SA. I don't know.
I only found about these 2 from researching another member of the family,  so am not working back.
Thanks

[brigidmac]

Have you seen the John bowyer miner travelling on SS Carpathia IN 1905

Going to see friend Mr Jasper in blearfield rosebud

Boxes are ticked yes   for read and write

Hard to read

[wilcoxon]

My John Boyer Phillips was presented with leaving gifts in 1910, so it looks like it was his first time.,

[Mabel Bagshawe]

There's an article in a South Wales paper from 1915 called "Notes from Natal" It mentions  preaching meetings on Easter Sunday and Whitsun in St George's Hall, Hatting Spruit, led by J Boyer Phillips

added: Hattingspruit is a coal mining town

[brigidmac]

When searching for records in south Africa on ancestry
It's better to scroll down locations
find south Africa
.choose a category such as marriages deaths or  court cases
Then put details of the individual
It's a slow process but you might find documents that don't come up during general search

[pampoen]

You can search on the National Archives of South Africa using this link http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl

The RSA Database does a search of all records.

If you know the person lived say in Natal you search the NAB Database.
If you know the person lived say in the Transvaal you search the TAB Database.
If you know the person lived say in the Free State you search the VAB Database.
If you know the person lived say in the Cape you search the KAB Database.

The archives are slowly being digitised and some can be viewed on Familysearch.

Volunteers are photographing gravestones and you may find a grave here https://www.graves-at-eggsa.org/cgi-bin/library/dosearchGraves.pl

I hope this helps. Be aware the National Archives of South Africa is sometimes down.