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French search of family member .I need help please.
« on: Monday 06 March 23 09:39 GMT (UK) »
I have Xavier Adam Adolphe Emile Cuvillier
birth  13TH AUG 1862 • Mulhouse, Mulhouse, France.
DEATH Unknown ?
then
Brother .
Emile Adolphe Adam François Xavier Cuvillier
BIRTH 1863 • Ballwilles Ht Rhein, Germany
DEATH 24TH APRIL 1864 • Mulhouse, Haut-Rhin, France.
have seen death entry for this boy.( full name as above )

then Adolphe Cuvillier
birth 13th July 1864
death 1918
I have Him marrying in 1887 to Celina Debray. ? ( Have I got this wrong ? )

I cannot find anything more on the first Brother,
 I do have a picture of Him in uniform aged 21 years dated 1883.
this was taken at  fort du parmont, Remiremont, Vosges, France.
and His name is written in full as above .

on 1866 census,
Xavier , is not with His family
He would have been only abt 4 yrs,
but His Brother Adolphe born 1864 aged 20 mths is .
 can anyone find information on Xavier .

picture of Xavier, aged 22 yrs.

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Re: French search of family member .I need help please.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 March 23 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Xavier was born in Bollwiller too. Very strange that Xavier's name was so close to Émile's - I did a quick check in the tables décennales for an early death for Xavier as you would think he had died and that Émile had been given a similar name.

No trace of a death for Xavier - which might suggest he died after say 1920 (so no records online) and before 1970 (when INSEE can provide information). Will keep an eye out though....
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 March 23 12:51 GMT (UK) »
manukarik,

Thank you for looking.

The names had been muddling My brain cells about,

I am just so please We have the picture of Him in 1884,

otherwise I would be thinking two of them were the same people ? if that makes sense ?

thank you for keeping an eye out  :)

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EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford, Boston, Lincoln. LANES, from Coleby,to Bracebridge Lincoln.WAKEFIELD,PROUDMAN Cheshire and  Stafford.<br />PINDAR, MOORE, ,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.
 HADDELSEY from Caistor,and Grimsby Lincolnshire.                   
 Parfitt, Le Gros ,Le Sueur, from Jersey.
Martin, from Doncaster  to whelyn garden city, London.
BINT, Worchester, in Australian mint.

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 March 23 17:52 GMT (UK) »
I have Xavier Adam Adolphe Emile Cuvillier
birth  13TH AUG 1862 • Mulhouse, Mulhouse, France.
DEATH Unknown ?
then
Brother .
Emile Adolphe Adam François Xavier Cuvillier
BIRTH 1863 • Ballwilles Ht Rhein, Germany
DEATH 24TH APRIL 1864 • Mulhouse, Haut-Rhin, France.
have seen death entry for this boy.( full name as above )

I cannot find anything more on the first Brother,
I do have a picture of Him in uniform aged 21 years dated 1883.
this was taken at  fort du parmont, Remiremont, Vosges, France.
and His name is written in full as above .

on 1866 census,
Xavier , is not with His family
He would have been only abt 4 yrs,
but His Brother Adolphe born 1864 aged 20 mths is .
 can anyone find information on Xavier .


Eilleen.


Have you had a look at the actual death certificate because the boy who died in April 1864 was born on 13 Aug 1862 i.e. brother 1 and brother 2 are the same person!

see: https://archives.haut-rhin.fr/ark:/naan/a011455803067O82nux/6721f9f901


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 March 23 07:39 GMT (UK) »
No Cuvillier born 1862 in Mulhouse .

13 July 1864 in Mulhouse
Birth of Adolphe Cuvillier (only one Christian name) to Adolphe Cuvillier and Anna Dürwell, witnesses François Xavier Cuvillier ( 64) and Jean Adam Durwell (54), very probably the grand-fathers.

https://archives.haut-rhin.fr/ark:/naan/a011455803230ypVmgi/a68b2ab5e3

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 March 23 07:54 GMT (UK) »
13 august 1862 in Bollwiller
birth of Xavier Adam Adolphe Emile in Bollwiller to Adolphe Cuvillier and Anna Durwell in the house of Durwell Jean Adam , grand father of the child
https://archives.haut-rhin.fr/ark:/naan/a011455803191bPwjlP/873be8c033


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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 March 23 08:05 GMT (UK) »
I thought this was Xavier Adam Adolphe Emile Cuvillier

right Mother etc, ( I am rubbish at reading French ) x
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LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.
 HADDELSEY from Caistor,and Grimsby Lincolnshire.                   
 Parfitt, Le Gros ,Le Sueur, from Jersey.
Martin, from Doncaster  to whelyn garden city, London.
BINT, Worchester, in Australian mint.

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 March 23 08:08 GMT (UK) »
https://archives.haut-rhin.fr/ark:/naan/a011455803029tM5XjC/626c5609f0

Death of Jean Adam Durwell
9 january 1865 Bollwiller (was the mayor of Bollwiller)

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 March 23 08:41 GMT (UK) »
https://archives.haut-rhin.fr/ark:/naan/a011455803067O82nux/6721f9f901

number 568
death of Emile Adolphe Adam François Xavier 24 april 1864 in Mulhouse , born 13 august 1862 Bollwiller to Adolphe Cuvillier and Anna Durwell, the parents living in Mulhouse  intend to bury him in Bollwiler

So Xavier and Emile were the same person.