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Offline Jeffrey

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I am researching this Thomas family and there is an article about John Thomas who died at the Welsh Harp in Dowlais in Welsh. Unfortunately :( I can not understand it.

It is on the Free Welsh Newspaper Site
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3207527/3207528/9/
It is down at the right hand side of that page and think it may continue over onto the next page but not sure.

Someone kindly sent me the following some time ago but I would like the full article as it may give more insight into their lives.

John Thomas, Welsh HArp died 17 Sept 1889 aged 42. Son of Isaac Thomas, formerly of Cymcynach, Abergwesyn (who lives in Hirwaun and is respected by and and a faithful Baptist)/ JT came to Dowlais from Llanwrtyd and Llangamarch about 9 years previously when he was a  tall, fine looking man having spent his early years in agriculture in the Wrtyd lowlands. Then hit by TB

Thank you very much.

These articles are such a good source of family interest especially when they connect people so well like this one.

Judy

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Re: Can anyone help with an English Translation of a Newspaper article please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 March 23 04:12 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone tell me have I posted this to the right board   Please ???
Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: Can anyone help with an English Translation of a Newspaper article please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 March 23 13:34 GMT (UK) »
You would be better off posting in the main welsh board for a translation as not many people keep an eye the resources board.

Also there is a Cymraeg board which you could pop it on there.

Unfortunately it is a substantial article to translate word by word and unfortunately you might have difficulty getting someone to translate.  Its basically an obituary and tribute in one.

Nesta

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Re: Can anyone help with an English Translation of a Newspaper article please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 March 23 14:32 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Nesta. Yes I wondered if this was the right board at the time.

Now I've got to think how to do that :-[

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey


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Re: Can anyone help with an English Translation of a Newspaper article please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 March 23 15:05 GMT (UK) »
You can get a rough translation by copying the text and pasting it into Google translate, Welsh to English. Some editing will be required. Ray

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Re: Can anyone help with an English Translation of a Newspaper article please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 March 23 15:12 GMT (UK) »
No problem - I would add welsh to english on your title as well.

It might be easier to ask one of the moderators to move the thread for you if they don't mind.

Nesta

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Re: Can anyone help with an English Translation of a Newspaper article please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 March 23 20:15 GMT (UK) »
My attempt, with the help of Google. I'm not great at the  biblical style language used in places here

DOWLAIS
This week falls to me the sadness of recording the story of the death and burial of an old friend of mine whom I liked very much, namely John Thomas (Welsh Harp) of this place. He was the son of Mr Isaac Thomas, formerly of Cwmcynach, parish of Abergwesin, Llanfihangel (who lives in Hirwain, and is respected by all and a very devout Baptist). However, the deceased came here from the Llanwrtyd and Llangamarch area about nine years ago. He was at that time a young, tall, good-looking man and in excellent health, having spent his early life here in a farmhouse in the healthy plains of the Wrtyd. His main love was to be in the fresh air. But despite his age and health, he came into contact with an old and deceitful enemy, namely tuberculosis. He gradually deteriorated until a few months ago when he was confined to his bed. He struggled for several months until Tuesday night, September 17, when he died aged 42. I liked him very much for his honesty. He was always very open and sincere. He was like an arrow in his integrity, like his physique. he did not possess one iota of India Rubber. I spent a lot of time in his company. I had many  discussion with him on different topics about the journey to the other side. He told me a few days before his death that he was not afraid to die, that his conscience was completely calm with a view to facing the hills of Jerusalem, that he had tried to be honest. However, he died on the night mentioned at 11pm.

The following Saturday, his mortal remains was escorted to the new Pant cemetery, near Dowlais, to lie, together with two of his small children, who were buried a short time ago.
A crowd came together to escort him, and he had a very princely funeral. Many relatives came from near and far to pay their last respects. The Reverend B. Davies, Moriah, Dowlais, officiated in a very solemn and purposeful manner having, together with Williams, Beulah, and Morgans, Caersalem, visited him many times when he was on his deathbed. He left behind a beloved wife and three children to mourn.
His wife was a very suitable companion for him, especially gentle and caring of him, especially so when on his deathbed.  If tenderness, care, and serving him, the medical power of Merthyr and Dowlais, the luxuries of this world could save a life, the deceased would be alive now. There is now only to say goodbye for a moment; and as a friend sang to me,
"Peace now for him to unite
Until Saturday of the many days [???]
When his Keeper comes to wake him
On the morning of the great resurrection.
When the whole family is gathered
The children of the great affliction are united,
To Jerusalem above to sing
Forever in the concert of the son of Man"

He kept a harp during the troublesome times. He loved to sing, and may he possess an eternal decaying harp. May God protect his beloved wife and his children who are left behind him.

Peace to his very beloved dust,
For a small moment I know.
I am his old friend, MENEVIUS.

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Re: Can anyone help with an English Translation of a Newspaper article please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 March 23 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much.
I appreciate that.

It is rather a nice obituary. Must have been a likeable man.

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: Can anyone help with an English Translation of a Newspaper article please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 March 23 16:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone who helped me with this.

I have now got the translation.

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey