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Albert FRANCIS and family immigrated to Wellington 1906
« on: Sunday 12 March 23 22:38 GMT (UK) »
and were living in Victoria, Australia in 1916 !

I have the passenger list of the Rimutaka, 1906, destination Wellington.  Also of the Australian Imperial Force Embarkation Roll  of 1916 South Yarra, Victoria, showing the residence of Julia (Albert's wife)  in South Melbourne, Victoria.

What could have happened in these ten years to change their lives so?

I have never had to  research in New Zealand before and have a hard time researching in Australia.  Please just point me in the right directionl  Of course, if anyone out there knows of this family, I would love to hear from you.   Junymoon.

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Re: Albert FRANCIS and family immigrated to Wellington 1906
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 March 23 23:43 GMT (UK) »
Is this the correct Albert FRANCIS - died 27 Sept 1948 in South Melbourne

Death notice, names wife Julia and 7 children:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/243529466

and findagrave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185417785/albert-francis

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Re: Albert FRANCIS and family immigrated to Wellington 1906
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 March 23 23:51 GMT (UK) »
To narrow the dates further - Albert and Julia are together on the electoral roll at 8 Queen St South Melbourne in 1913.

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Re: Albert FRANCIS and family immigrated to Wellington 1906
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 March 23 03:00 GMT (UK) »
NZ registry indexes are online.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search

Alfred and James were born in NZ, 1907 and 1908.

Vic registry indexes are also online

https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history

Ernest Arthur was born in Melbourne in 1910.

Debra  :)



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Re: Albert FRANCIS and family immigrated to Wellington 1906
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 March 23 04:15 GMT (UK) »


"I have the passenger list of the Rimutaka, 1906, destination Wellington."

Who is listed as passengers?

Where did the Rimutaka sail from....to Wellington?

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Re: Albert FRANCIS and family immigrated to Wellington 1906
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 March 23 04:22 GMT (UK) »

"Also of the Australian Imperial Force Embarkation Roll  of 1916 South Yarra, Victoria, showing the residence of Julia (Albert's wife)  in South Melbourne, Victoria."

Is this the enlistment record you are seeing.......WW2?

Found -
FRANCIS Alexander : Service Number - V75245
:DOB - 08 Aug 1916
:POB - South Melbourne VIC
:Place of enlistment - South Melbourne
:NOK - FRANCIS Julia       (address 1 Church St South Melbourne)

Alexander FRANCIS WW2 enlistment, 14 Aug 1940, South Melbourne.

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Re: Albert FRANCIS and family immigrated to Wellington 1906
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 March 23 08:13 GMT (UK) »

What could have happened in these ten years to change their lives so?


Hello juneymoon

Short answer to your question ...  they had two New Zealand-born sons.   :)

People moved for all sorts of reasons.   
I've checked New Zealand newspapers for any sign of them from 1906 to 1910 ... nothing at all  popped up. 

*  Do you know if they had family living in New Zealand - and if so, might that have been a reason for them emigrating here ? 

*   Likewise ... did they have family living in Australia, before they moved there ?

I note that NZ electoral rolls list Albert and Julia only once - for the year of 1908.
Some time earlier they were living in Wellington at No. 2 Alfred Street - a short (first) street off Adelaide Road (a main thoroughfare), which begins near the junction of where the Basin Reserve (cricket ground) stands.   The top end of Alfred Street, bordered onto the large grounds of Wellington (Boys) College and Government House (home to the Governor General).     
I'll see if I can find some photos of the area for you.   The houses in that vicinity would have been rather small, wooden, single-storey "working man" style cottages, with small yards.  The land was flat-ish, rising slightly where it met the Govt. House grounds.   [It's all now filled with apartment blocks so "google street view" is of no help.]

They obviously moved from Wellington during 1907 (even though listed on the 1908 Wellington e/roll), as the birth of their son Alfred was registered at Taihape (pronounced "tai-ha-pay") a small town in the central North Island.  [Alfred William FRANCIS b. 23 March 1907. ]
Albert FRANCIS had been listed as a Labourer (1908 e/roll) ... but unknown what he was doing in Taihape.

They next moved to a settlement called Weber* where the birth of James Edward FRANCIS b. 24 July 1908 was registered.
 *        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weber,_New_Zealand

I did a quick look at VIC passenger lists but couldn't find a listing for the family.

   ~  Lu







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Re: Albert FRANCIS and family immigrated to Wellington 1906
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 March 23 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Hello.

The Main Trunk Railway reached Taihape in 1904, and with that came expanding interest in farming, forestry, and civil engineering projects etc, and services, so a rising demand for man power.

Alan.
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Re: Albert FRANCIS and family immigrated to Wellington 1906
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 March 23 05:08 GMT (UK) »
You may already have these details? but they do provide a timeline......

Marriage Sep 1899
Francis    Albert        Whitechapel
 1c   471
PRENTICE    Julia        Whitechapel
 1c   471   

Birth:

FRANCIS, LILY  MAY     [PRENTICE]
GRO Reference: 1903  S Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN  Volume 01C  Page 495
 
Birth:

FRANCIS, ALBERT  RICHARD     [PRENTICE] 
GRO Reference: 1904  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 582

Then as shown above, two sons born in New Zealand:

1907/10929   Francis   Alfred William   Julia   Albert   -   
1908/14391   Francis   James Edward**   Julia   Albert

**His date of birth was 24.7.1908.

And also shown above, these three children born in Victoria:

FRANCIS
Hy
Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Julia
PRENTICE
<Unknown Family Name>, Albt
MELBOURNE STH
1912
32236/1912

FRANCIS
Ernt Arth
Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Julia
PRENTICE
<Unknown Family Name>, Albt
MELBOURNE STH
1910
21330/1910

FRANCIS
Alex
Birth
<Unknown Family Name>, Julia
PRENTICE
<Unknown Family Name>, Albt
SOUTH MELBOURNE
1916
22771/1916

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