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Totally Perplexed by Irish Place Name "Barney Arrah" Galway
« on: Tuesday 14 March 23 00:43 GMT (UK) »
Hello every body, I have been doing some research about a Patrick Concannon, born somewhere in County Galway circa 1851.

I have him on the 1871 census entry 196, age 20, living with his parents and sibling nextdoor to Little Ireland, Little Hulton and working as Coal Miner  (UNMARRIED)

Civil parish   Little Hulton
Ecclesiastical parish   Deane
County/Island   Lancashire
Country   England
Registration district   Bolton
Sub-registration district   Hulton
ED, institution, or vessel   4
Household schedule number   196
Piece   3920
Folio   94
Page number   40

His place of birth has been listed as Barney Arrah  ???, and I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. I'm guessing the Enumerator struggled to understand a strong Irish accent and wrote down what he thought he heard. My best guess is perhaps something to do with Barna (Bearna) and possibly Cappagh Park, but don't let that idea limit your thinking.

I am totally perplexed as to where it might actually be, so I thought I'd post the subject here and see what you good folk come up with.

Many thanks in advance for any input from you all.

Philip
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Re: Totally Perplexed by Irish Place Name "Barney Arrah" Galway
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 March 23 00:47 GMT (UK) »
Oh, by the way his name on the 1871 census has been transcribed as Patrick Cuncannor.

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Berkshire; Knight, Bristor, Sharpe, Sharp, Ashley.
Suffolk / Essex; Perce, Pearce, Pearse, Pierce, Hayes.
Midlands; Hodgetts, Parker, Easthope.

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Re: Totally Perplexed by Irish Place Name "Barney Arrah" Galway
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 March 23 00:50 GMT (UK) »
Not an expert on Ireland at all, but I wonder if it was "Barna Connemara", Connemara being the region.  :-\

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Re: Totally Perplexed by Irish Place Name "Barney Arrah" Galway
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 March 23 02:09 GMT (UK) »
What about this one?

https://www.townlands.ie/galway/boyounagh2/

https://www.townlands.ie/galway/ballymoe/boyounagh/glennamaddy/barna/

Debra  :)

My pick would be Boyounagh.

I always check the 1901 census as no matter when or how many of a family left there usually were some families left

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01s6n/

Also Griffiths Valuation has at least 260 Concannons to look at in Co Galway incl a couple William and Jeremiah in Boyounagh

https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch


Did your Patrick marry?

If so you might be able to number of names to look at if you start by looking at his children's names.
The Irish had a naming pattern

Traditional Naming Pattern
A traditional naming pattern was often used by Irish parents until the later 19th century:

First son usually named for the father's father
Second son usually named for the mother's father
Third son usually named for the father
Fourth son usually named for the father's eldest brother
Fifth son usually named for the mother's eldest brother
First daughter usually named for the mother's mother
Second daughter usually named for the father's mother
Third daughter usually named for the mother
Fourth daughter usually named for the mother's eldest sister
Fifth daughter usually named for the father's eldest sister.




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Re: Totally Perplexed by Irish Place Name "Barney Arrah" Galway
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 March 23 11:25 GMT (UK) »

Is this your Patrick?

Ancestry Census 1871   at Little Ireland Little Halton LANCS
CUNCANNOR Thomas         41y           b. Barney Arrah Galway Ireland
CUNCANNOR  Catherine     40y                          "
CUNCANNOR Thomas          5y                          "
CUNCANNOR Patrick          20y                          "


Ancestry Census 1881       at 27 New Bank St   Tyldesley cum Shakerley   
CONCANNAN  Patrick          30y        wid      coal miner         b.  Ireland
CONCANNAN  Thomas          9y        so                                b. Tyldesley                                             
CONCANNAN  William           6y        son                              b. Tyldesley 
CONCANNAN  Mary E            4Y       dau                              b. Tyldesley 
CONCANNAN  Catherine        56y      mother                         b. Ireland
CONCANNAN  William           16y      bro.  coal miner            b. Chowbent, Lancashire
CONCANNAN  John               12y      bro.  scholar                 b. Chowbent, Lancashire

Marriage: 31 Dec 1882 Sacred Heart, Hindsford, Atherton, Lancashire, England
CONCANNON    Patritium        Tyldesley   father: CONCANNON Thomae
CLEWORTH       Elizabetham   Tyldesley   father: CLEWORTH    Joannis     
Witness:          Jacobo NESTOR of Plank Lane; Catharina CONCANNON of Plank Lane


GRO births
CONCANNON, John      mms.     MCLOUGHLIN 
1869  DecQ                 Liverpool  Vol 08B  Page 57

Ancestry Census 1891 at 12 Jane Lane Worsley Lancashire
CONCANNON  Patrick      40y                       b. Ireland
CONCANNON  Elizabeth   32y     wife            b. Swinton LANS
CONCANNON  William      16y    son miner    b. Tyldesley
CONCANNON  Mary E       14Y    dau            b. Tyldesley
CONCANNON  Emily J        7Y    dau             b. Swinton
CONCANNON  James         4y    son              b. Swinton
CONCANNON  Martha        1y    dau              b. Swinton
GILMORE Michael             24y  lodger           b. Ireland


Baptism: 18 Nov 1883 St Mary of the Immaculate Conception, Swinton, Lancashire, England
CONCANNON Amelia Joanna parents Patrick CONCANNON & Elizabeth (formerly CLEWARTH)
Born: 20 Oct 1883
Abode: Holland St, Jane Lane, Swinton
Godparents: Marcus SARFIELD    Maria Joanna TODD

Baptism: 23 Jan 1887 St Mary of the Immaculate Conception, Swinton, Lancashire, England
CONCANNON James Concannon parents  Patrick CONCANNON & Elizabeth (formerly CLEWARTH)
Born: 6 Jan 1887
Godparents: Peter KELLY  Bridget KELLY

Baptism:
26 May 1889 St Mary of the Immaculate Conception, Swinton, Lancashire, England
CONCANNON  Martha parents  Patrick CONCANNON & Elizabeth (formerly CLEWARTH)
Born: 15 May 1889
Godparents: Michael GILMORE  Joanna CLEWARTH

Baptism: 8 Sep 1895 St Mary of the Immaculate Conception, Swinton, Lancashire, England
CONCANNON William Concannon parents Patrick CONCANNON & Elizabeth (formerly CLEWARTH)
Born: 27 Jul 1895
Abode: 16 Jane Lane
Godparents: Anna FLITCROFT
               

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Re: Totally Perplexed by Irish Place Name "Barney Arrah" Galway
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 March 23 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Could Arrah be Aran
Brannock (Island) Aran, bit of a stretch, there was Concannons on one of the Islands but still...

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Re: Totally Perplexed by Irish Place Name "Barney Arrah" Galway
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 March 23 17:12 GMT (UK) »
I wondered about this place - Barnacurragh but it is the ‘c’ sound that doesn’t fit  :-\

https://www.townlands.ie/galway/dunmore/tuam/tuam-rural/barnacurragh/
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Re: Totally Perplexed by Irish Place Name "Barney Arrah" Galway
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 March 23 20:00 GMT (UK) »
His place of birth has been listed as Barney Arrah

Philip
Can you please post part of the image for others to have a look & see what they think?

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