William Mason

[MonicaL]

There is this family in Ayrshire in 1861:

John Mason 40 Chelsea Pensioner & Staff Off Militia b. Ireland
Mary E Mason 33 b. England
John W Mason 3 b. Ireland
Philip J Mason 1 b. Ayr
Alicia Ripton 72 Mother Formerly Shop Keeper b. Ireland

Address: Steels L George St, St Quivox, Ayr

Wondered whether the W middle name initial could be for William and John W Mason went by William in later years.

1851 has parents in Scarborough, Yorkshire England:

John Mason 30, Corporal 46th Regiment b. Ballimicaton (??), Ireland
Mary Elizabeth Mason 24 b. Kings Meare, Devon

In Scotland, the birth of Philip James and 3 more girls is showing www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

1862 Ann Elizabeth, died 1862
1863 Eliza Mary
1866 Margarat Sophy, died 1875 aged 9

The family in 1871 are in  Green Street Lane, Newton-On-Ayr, Ayr.

You would need to check one of the registrations for William (marriages or death) to confirm his parents' names I would suggest.

Monica

[staplehouse]

on both marriage and death it states nothing about his parents
but getting his second marriage certificate and his second wife death ceritifcate to see if any thing
will get back to you when i received them

[MonicaL]

Was there anything of note in his children's names (assume he had children with first wife)?

Scots and Irish are know to follow often some form of naming pattern for their children. Not always followed to the letter or in strict order but worth considering nevertheless. Lots of links for this such as www.cotyroneireland.com/guide/NamePaterns.html  Also there might be surnames used as middle names for the children which can also help (often the source of this would be surnames from the maternal line).

Hope you find something that helps further 

Monica

[staplehouse]

there was no children to both marriage which makes it harder again

[MonicaL]

I can see the death notice for 1st wife Frances https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15817098?searchTerm=frances%20mason but can't easily see a notice for William following his death (you mentioned 27 September 1934 for his death?).

Monica

[staplehouse]

yes that is right

[MonicaL]

Found William's https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17122289?searchTerm=william%20mason

Sure you have these  Was just checking if there was anything of note that could help further, but there is not sadly.

Monica

[rosie17]

yes that is correct and i have it and it states on there that he was born in Kent England and he was a painter  and he was 36 where on the death one he stated that he married at 27 years
i think this guy did not known much about himself

Just seen a copy of this on a tree on Ancestry it seems strange that there is no mention of parents .It does say he was born in Kent and his age would give him a birth year of 1850 as you said he doesn't seem to know much about himself

Rosie

[Dundee]

It is not unusual for parents' names, as well as ages and birthplaces to be missing from the registry's records, especially in this era and in regional areas as the consolidation with church records was never completed.  Normally you would then go to the church records to see the full details, however this certificate has a notation that the details of age and birthplace were obtained from the church register in 1968 so it looks like the minister did not record the parents' names for either of them.

Debra