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Re: COX family in London 1881 Census
« Reply #9 on: Monday 17 April 23 07:09 BST (UK) »

9, Northampton Street, Pancras, St Pancras, London & Middlesex
John   Cox   Head   1832   occ Fire wood cutter   St Luke's, Middlesex
Sally   Cox   Wife   1839   St Luke's, Middlesex
Edward Cox son 1859 St Luke's, Middlesex
Sally   Cox   Daughter   1861    St Pancras, Middlesex



Yes, this is them, thanks
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Re: COX family in London 1881 Census
« Reply #10 on: Monday 17 April 23 07:22 BST (UK) »
Pretty elusive in 1881  ???

Indeed, but at least we know where they lived for about four years a little while before then!
Not really sure what happened to the first two children, Edmund and Sarah Ann.
Thomas might have died in 1873
March 1873 Holborn 1b 422
Cox, Thomas   
Age 4

In the Burial Register for Victoria Park Cemetery, Hackney

Edmund COX age 2 years 10 months, Sidney St Caledonian Road, 25 Nov 1861
Sarah COX age 14 months, Sidney St Caledonian Road, 9 Dec 1961

Edmond COX 1861 Q4 Islington Vol 1b Page 135 (Age 3)
Sarah COX 1861 Q4 Islington Vol 1B Page 148 (Age 1)

So not a happy month for John and Sarah  :(
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Re: COX family in London 1881 Census
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 April 23 07:42 BST (UK) »
Just as another thought - might be nothing though.

I found an entry for an Ann COX in the Islington Workhouse Records 30 Jan 1881, this Ann is age 19 and had given birth to an illegitimate son William Percy COX. She is listed as a Servant. There are so many Ann COX, servant records in London in the 1881 census that I got a bit overwhelmed yesterday. I will revisit this, though.

I spent quite a bit of time looking at John COX (the father) in the Stepney Board of Guardians Records on Ancestry yesterday as he seems to have been in and out of the Mile End Old Town Workhouse between 1903 and 1907. He was moved to the infirmary a couple of times and in 1907 is moved to the Insane ward, for "Religious Mania". On one of the records he is suddenly described as Baptist where he had been CofE before - does anyone have any insight into whether just claiming to be a Baptist (possibly loudly) would have led authorities to say that someone had "religious mania"?? I am trying to "follow" his life to find the death/burial record. There is a John COX, similar age, in the Stepney Union Workhouse in 1911 but he is described as a General Labourer, rather than a Wood Cutter. I wondered if this might make sense if he had been in the Workhouse since 1907?

Apologies - I feel like I have gone off at a tangent here! My head is spinning with information...
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Re: COX family in London 1881 Census
« Reply #12 on: Monday 17 April 23 09:16 BST (UK) »
A+D register says John Cox discharged to Colney Hatch, 9 Oct 1907

Patients in the Lunatic Wards of the Workhouse, Bancroft Road
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31952_a015060-00065

Reception Order for John Cox, of 165 Skidmore Street, Mile End, Wood Chopper
Sent to Colney Hatch
Wife Sarah in Forest Gate
Gives a description of his symptoms
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31952_a013998-00391


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Re: COX family in London 1881 Census
« Reply #13 on: Monday 17 April 23 09:30 BST (UK) »
Lunacy Patients Admission Registers on ancestry
Jno Cox, admitted to Colney (Hatch), 9 Oct 1907
Died 8 April 1913
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/9051/images/42477_1831101456_11591-00204

Death
June 1913 Barnet 3a 349
Cox, John   
Age 76

So a sad end for John. Sorry about that.   

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Re: COX family in London 1881 Census
« Reply #14 on: Monday 17 April 23 09:41 BST (UK) »
Likely John in Colney Hatch in 1911
J C, 74, Wood Chopper
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW4F-JWT

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Re: COX family in London 1881 Census
« Reply #15 on: Monday 17 April 23 13:15 BST (UK) »
Great finds jonw65

For info. Sarah Cox is not living at 93, Strone Road, Town, East Ham, West Ham on 1911 census

I wonder if this is her death entry

Sarah Cox Age:   77  Mar 1911 West Ham, Essex Volume:   4a Page:   178
and burial
Sarah Cox  Age   77 Burial 24 Jan 1911 Leyton, St Mary the Virgin, Essex

1911 John & Sarah Cox’s married dau Martha Felstead age 38 is living at
118 Strone Road Forest Gate, East Ham, London & Essex Forest Green with them is her brother Arthur Cox age 24 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWFH-HT5

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Re: COX family in London 1881 Census
« Reply #16 on: Monday 17 April 23 13:24 BST (UK) »
This is all fabulous - thank you. I had struggled to find his final discharge after being admitted in 1907 so I really appreciate all that information, I will have a good look through. That also answers his whereabouts in the 1911 census so I can bin the "possibles" I have been collecting!

Sarah Cox is living at 77 Strone Road in the 1911 Census (at least that is what I believe), as a visitor in a household of people I don't recognise. I had thought it was probably a way of being near to her children. I will have a closer look at those death/burials, thank you!
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Re: COX family in London 1881 Census
« Reply #17 on: Monday 17 April 23 13:33 BST (UK) »
A+D register says John Cox discharged to Colney Hatch, 9 Oct 1907

Patients in the Lunatic Wards of the Workhouse, Bancroft Road
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31952_a015060-00065

Reception Order for John Cox, of 165 Skidmore Street, Mile End, Wood Chopper
Sent to Colney Hatch
Wife Sarah in Forest Gate
Gives a description of his symptoms
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/31952_a013998-00391

That reception order does make for sad reading but thank you so much for finding it - it really fills in the blanks and directly answers why "religious mania".
Herbert, Rose, Petvin, Viner, Thomsett, Ladd, Morrott, Rickards