I'm really confused with Ernest Lucas

[dorothyl]

Hello everyone. I'm hoping someone can help me.
I'm really confused
I've been doing my husbands family tree for him. There's a confusing on something .
My husbands uncle is called Ernest Lucas. I think he was born November 1903. My hubby says he doesn't think his uncle Ernest Lucas passed away 1980s. He doesn't remember that.
As everyone knows that my hubby has a big family.
Recently I asked for a photo of the headstone of Ernest Lucas.
But the family on the stone my hubby doesn't recognise. Anyone.
It's possible that this Ernest Lucas isn't the correct one.

Please can anyone help me link up my hubbys family.
His father's name is Samuel Richard Lucas born 15th March 1915
He passed away 12th August 1999

Hopefully you might be able to see the headstone I've attached

Please can anyone help me.
I would appreciate any help possible.

Thank you so much for your time and help.
Kind regards
Dorothy

[mckha489]

As the photograph has not attached, could you please just copy out the details on it here? (So that we can know the names your husband does not recognise)

[MonicaL]

Hi Dorothy

Unfortunately, photo not showing.

Just trying to confirm some details on the family.

Is this them?

Is this Ernest's birth entry?

LUCAS, ERNEST        ALLMARK     
GRO Reference: 1903  D Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 976
Baptism www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Baptism: 16 Apr 1905 St Stephen, Hulme, Lancashire, England
Ernest Lucas - [Child] of Squire Lucas & Agnes
    Born: 5 Nov 1903
    Abode: 19 Mallow St.
    Occupation: Labourer

And your husband's father Samuel's entry?

LUCAS, SAMUEL        ALLMARK     
GRO Reference: 1915  J Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL  Volume 08C
Baptism www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Baptism: 7 Apr 1915 St Stephen, Hulme, Lancashire, England
Samuel Lucas - [Child] of Squire Lucas & Agnes
    Born: 14 Mar 1915
    Abode: 24 Chorlton Grove
    Occupation: Coal Merchant

A Squire Lucas married Agnes Allmark in Chorlton, 3rd Qrt 1900 (8c/1410)
Parish marriage details:
Marriage: 28 Jul 1900 St Stephen, Hulme, Lancashire, England
Squire Lucas - 20, Stone polisher, Bachelor, 84 Crown St.
Agnes Allmark - 20, Spinster, 27 Wood St.
    Groom's Father: Squire Lucas, Mechanic
    Bride's Father: Henry Allmark, Iron pattern maker
    Witness: Edward Dolan; Caroline Dolan

Marriage for Ernest on Ancestry:
Ernest Lucas, 24, plasterer, and Jane Ann Smith, 22
Marriage 7 Apr 1928 at St Stephen Hulme Hulme, St Michael, Manchester
Father: Squire Lucas, coal merchant

Ernest and wife Jane Ann on the 1939 register, birth date for Ernest as above, 5 Nov 1903. Only one daughter from the marriage? Like you, called Dorothy 

No photo included, but are these the death details you have from the stone www.findagrave.com/memorial/150119431/ernest-lucas

GRO index entry for the death:

1st Qrt 1982 ERNEST LUCAS - 5 NOV1903 MANCHESTER   38/1463

Seems pretty clear to me that you have followed the correct Ernest   

Monica

[amondg]

1921 they are at 24 Chorlton Grove, Old Trafford

Squire, Agnes
Ernest , Squire, Samuel

daughter Agnes Victoria born 10 October 1901 died 6 February 1918 ref: Find a Grave
Chorlton Cum Hardy

ADDED Grave 392 area M

[amondg]

The son Squire Lucas was born 12 February 1906 parents Squire and Agnes.

All children baptized at Hulme ref: Lancs OPC

[amondg]

Ernest Lucas is in grave number 1799 area KK at the Southern Cemetery Chorlton Cum Hardy

His wife Jane Ann Lucas is buried in the same plot - 23 January 1976

[BumbleB]

The inscription on the headstone that is mentioned reads:

Merciful Jesus please receive
the souls of
Ernest Lucas
a dear husband and father
died Nov. 4th 1955

Also James E Hennessy
died Oct 3rd 1962
Also Elizabeth Hennessy
died Jan? 1973

I have told Dorothy that I don't think that this is the correct Ernest Lucas.

[amondg]

I agree BumbleB

This gentleman was RC.

There is no picture of Ernest Lucas grave on Find a Grave, there is a picture of his wife's inscription

[Cas (stallc)]

BumbleB is correct, It is the wrong Ernest Lucas grave there is this marriage that connects the people, tree on Ancestry. Added James Edward  was born 1890

Marriages Jun 1928   

Hennessy    Hannah    -Lucas    Manchester N.    8d   1247    
Lucas    Ernest   - Hennessy    Manchester N.   

Hannah was sister to James E and Elizabeth. So this Ernest is buried with his in laws. Both James and Elizabeth single in 1939 living same house.

Cas