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Offline callyj06

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Alias Names
« on: Friday 28 April 23 15:46 BST (UK) »
How can I tell which name is correct for a family that used alias's?  My 2 x Gt. Grandparents were married in 1835, she with the surname Stone, which I can trace back for two or more generations but his surname on the parish register was Gourdon.  Their first child was baptised with the surname Gordan in 1836 followed by 8 more, 5 with the surname Jordan, 1 with the name Copp and the last two (who were twins) as Jordan alias Copp.  On all census returns, the family's surname is Copp and in adult life all the children that I can find have gone by that name.  I'm puzzled and can't get any further back with my 2 x Gt. Grandfather until I can find the correct surname.  Any help much appreciated.

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Re: Alias Names
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 29 April 23 04:39 BST (UK) »
  I always go to the name given for Baptism, as that is the Registered Name.
In my FAMILY there was an Alias used, which was SHEPPARD, but it turns out to be a work related name from what I'm learning of the early days of my family around the early1500's.  Not all that long after that time this name doesn't seem to appear. I would guess it's because of the change in employment, the family moved into0 the dairy industry.
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Martlock, Pilton, Doubting & Frome:
MASTERS, PORCH, BOULTON, HACKETT,
Combe Hay, HINTON, WEEKS,
Perthshire: CRICHTON, TAYLOR, MOON, IRONS, KIDD
Durham, FENWICK, PUNSHON, EDDY, HENRY aka LAVERICK
Northumberland, BUCHANAN, HODGSON, HALL,
Lincoln: MASKEY,BIRD,FISHER,HARLEY,
Cambridgeshire, CROSS, FOREMAN, FREEMAN, ONG,
FEAST, MOXON
Gloucestershire, HILL, COX, NEWELL
Sussex, CHAPMAN, NEVE, DOWNER
Surrey, NEWELL, WEBB,

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Re: Alias Names
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 29 April 23 06:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Geoff. My 2 x GG was a Cooper by profession,  so could be that although I'm fairly sure his M-i-L's maiden name was Copp so perhaps they took her name for some reason.  But why???? Very puzzling.  I shall have to concentrate on the Jordan title to see where that takes me. Thanks again.

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Re: Alias Names
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 29 April 23 07:26 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat. Could you please confirm that this is the family you refer to in your opening post?

John GOURDAN married Charlotte STONE 19 July 1835 Tiverton, Devon
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2M3-ZH59
both sojouners in the parish, both signed
witnesses were John JOPP  and E SHORLANDE
 

Children baptisms in Willand Devon
•   Owen Gordan 1836
•   George Jordan 1838
•   John Fergus Jordan 1841
•   Thirza Jordan 1844
•   Ellen Jordan 1847
•   Emma  1850
•   Clara Copp 1854
•   William 1856 Jordan alias Copp
•   Charlotte  1856 Jordan alias Copp

1841 and 1851 and 1861 census the family is using the name COPP
You are looking for John COPP born Halberton 1810-1812
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Re: Alias Names
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 April 23 07:39 BST (UK) »
Yes, that's them.  I'm very attached to this branch - really want to find out about John Jordan or Copp.

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Re: Alias Names
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 April 23 07:44 BST (UK) »
Not sure John was really born in Halberton either!

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Re: Alias Names
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 April 23 08:20 BST (UK) »
JOHN Jordan Baptism 5 February 1812, Halberton, Devon
Mother ELIZABETH Jordan

Trish :)
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Alias Names
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 29 April 23 08:24 BST (UK) »
Quote from: trish1120 on Saturday 29 April 23 08:20 BST (UK)
JOHN Jordan Baptism 5 February 1812, Halberton, Devon
Mother ELIZABETH Jordan

Trish :)

The birth date is 1804, though  :-\
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Re: Alias Names
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 29 April 23 08:45 BST (UK) »
Am I looking at the wrong John then?
I thought he married Charlotte.


1851 Census
John Copp   39 Head born Halberton
Charlotte Copp 38 Wife
Owen Copp 15   Son
John Copp 10   Son
Ellen Copp 4 Daughter
Emma Copp 1   Daughter

Trish :)
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
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