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ag labs
« on: Saturday 06 May 23 08:23 BST (UK) »
I am amazed at how often, and how far, my ag lab forebears, and those of my friend and of my wife, moved - not to join the new iron and coal industry in Wales, but simply to work as ag labs on different farms, often in different counties. Can anyone on the forum (a) offer an explanation, and/or (b) suggest a good book on the life of ag labs from, say 1500-1850?
Young, Gameson, Miles, Williamson, Cramond

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Re: ag labs
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 May 23 11:43 BST (UK) »
Hi,
This book might be of interest to you.

My Ancestor Was An Agricultural Labourer by Ian Waller.
It's had a couple of good reviews.

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Re: ag labs
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 May 23 12:15 BST (UK) »


Google....."hiring fairs".....might find something of use to you.

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Re: ag labs
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 May 23 12:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you. Good suggestions, to be followed up
Young, Gameson, Miles, Williamson, Cramond


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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 May 23 12:39 BST (UK) »
One of my Berkshire ag lab ancestors moved from West Berkshire to East Berkshire in about 1745. His ancestors came from Wiltshire. Shows how you may have to consider such movements when trying to trace ag lab ancestors or any ones as people were very mobile.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: ag labs
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 May 23 17:13 BST (UK) »
...and mine went from Wiltshire to Somerset. Interesting.
Young, Gameson, Miles, Williamson, Cramond

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Re: ag labs
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 May 23 17:36 BST (UK) »
"from West Berkshire to East Berkshire"

That's what?  50 miles?
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: ag labs
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 May 23 18:13 BST (UK) »
"from West Berkshire to East Berkshire"

That's what?  50 miles?

Still a fair distance, you cannot compare the duration of travelling in 1750 to today. People were more mobile than you think as I said, but it was still a journey, on land on dusty roads by horse and cart.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: ag labs
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 May 23 19:14 BST (UK) »
There are two types of farming :

(a) pastoral (rearing animals for food such as cattle, sheep and pigs ,
 
(b) arable (growing crops, including cereals such as wheat, and barley, oilseed rape, peas and beans, sugar beet and potatoes. )

If an ancestor worked on a Duke's estate (for example) he might have travelled quite some distances to work on his employer's farms, especially moving when needed for spring lambing, or moving in autumn for harvesting before the rains came.

When I was young I lived in a farming village and remember one year when my then boyfriend had been working long hours through the night for his farmer employer gathering in the crops and then was sent forty miles northward, where he stayed for three weeks,  to assist another farmer gather in his crops.

When my late OH was young in the 1950s he knew two old Irish farmhands in their 70s, who lived in Ireland with their families during the winter months and then travelled to England travelling across the land assisting with seasonal work.
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke