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Cause of death
« on: Friday 12 May 23 18:48 BST (UK) »
Looking for help with cause of death from this US death certificate
McIntyre/Fraser/McLachlan/Lister/Ferguson/Murray/Muir/Blackwood/Hutchison/Cochrane/Craig/Calderwood/McIntosh/Collie/Dott

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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 May 23 18:57 BST (UK) »
deliria tremens ?

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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 May 23 19:47 BST (UK) »
Looks like Deleria but not tremens.
McIntyre/Fraser/McLachlan/Lister/Ferguson/Murray/Muir/Blackwood/Hutchison/Cochrane/Craig/Calderwood/McIntosh/Collie/Dott

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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 May 23 22:18 BST (UK) »
Deleria
1. a state of excitement and mental confusion, often accompanied by hallucinations, caused by high fever, poisoning, brain injury, etc
2.  violent excitement or emotion; frenzy

The death was subject to an inquest so may be felt to be out of the ordinary  and the usual medical Dr was not able to sign.  The addtional text states 'shock' as well.

Not sure when this certificate was issued.  This can have an effect on what illnesses were known as.

A modern day definition of delerium is here
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/15252-delirium

Where it comes on suddenly as a result of fever etc they try to reduce the fever so that the delerium is minimised.

You might be able to locate the results of the inquest.

letting us know the date of the certificate might help as well

My brain keeps telling me the word is 'praecox' but I don't think it is.   




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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 May 23 22:37 BST (UK) »
Looks like Deleria but not tremens.

I believe it is Tremens, as shanreagh has said. Capital T with a bonnet instead of a flat cap. The r is disguised by a leading hook (on the left). The rest of the letters as marked below.

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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 May 23 22:46 BST (UK) »
The upward arrow in between the two words indicates that maybe Pending should come between Deleria and the next word.
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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 May 23 00:04 BST (UK) »
The upward arrow in between the two words indicates that maybe Pending should come between Deleria and the next word.
Carol

The first and second lines have been written by different people. I would agree with Bookbox. The way the writer forms his "n" can also be seen in "and", and the "m" is is a similar style.

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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 May 23 07:12 BST (UK) »
Date of death was 8 October 1906
McIntyre/Fraser/McLachlan/Lister/Ferguson/Murray/Muir/Blackwood/Hutchison/Cochrane/Craig/Calderwood/McIntosh/Collie/Dott

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Re: Cause of death
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 May 23 07:29 BST (UK) »
Could  you please put up the complete certificate so we can see how the letters are formed in other places.  Or give reference so we can look for ourselves.  Thanks