Author Topic: Living descendants Henry A. T. Griffin & Harriet - Shoreditch (UK) to NSW ca1882  (Read 1322 times)

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Thank you for the suggestion!  Thanks to leads from the folks in this forum, I'm whittling away and starting to find a bit of focus in the 20th Century.  It's amazing what one can accomplish in a few days after off-line researching 40 years ago left a hole.

The Australia board's sub-board "Australia Resources & Offers" has an extensive list of resources which also may be of some help. Here https://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/
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Many thanks!  I did not think to look for her outside Shoreditch.  Must adjust my searching -- time to dig back into the London tree in my UK-ancestors' forest!  I remain grateful for RootsChat.


They appear to have emigrated soon after, as daughter Florence Louisa Griffin was born about 1883.

Florence was born in England.

GRIFFIN, FLORENCE  LOUISA
Mother's maiden surname: BARFIELD     
GRO Reference: 1883  M Quarter in CHELSEA  Volume 01A  Page 420

Debra  :)

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Beautiful!  Thank you!  I wondered about the cemetery names when I briefly glanced through earlier, so I wasn't sure if I was on the right track.


here is the death notice for Henry's wife

 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28037116?searchTerm=guy%20merlin

the funeral notice is on the previous page

she is buried the cemetery now called Macquarie Park Cemetery and Crematorium

https://nmclm.com.au/find-a-loved-one/?site_id=6037

Henry is buried at Rookwood Cemetery
https://rookwoodcemetery.discovereverafter.com/profile/26564740

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Thank you!  This confirmed my hypothesis about Daisy.

I believe the daughter named “Daisy” in her mother’s 1931 death notice is “Harriett Daisy” born 1892.

In the 1930 electoral roll
Daisie Harriett GRIFFIN – book binder
(living 1 Carlotta St Greenwich, same address as her sister Ethel Swan)
and
Harriett GRIFFIN and Winnifred GRIFFIN (living at 43 Carlotta St Greenwich)

In 1954 electoral roll Daisy Harriett GRIFFIN is still living in Greenwich, still a book binder (so still unmarried then)

GRIFFIN   Harriet (Daisy)   
Death 10 OCT1955         late of Greenwich   
Death notice in Sydney Morning Herald   published 12OCT 1955


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Thank you -- I went back through my notes.  This is where I found her (need to add the date...  They must have landed in QLD then moved to NSW.

Name    Dorothy Griffin
Birth Date    23 Oct 1884
Birth Place    Queensland
Registration Year    1884
Registration Place    Queensland, Australia
Father    
Henry Griffin
Mother    
Harriett Barfield
Page number    5768
Registration Number    007522





  • Dorothy Griffin (b. ?; d. before 1931)


I can't see any sign of a Dorothy in this family. Where did you come across this name?

Search New South Wales BMD here
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search;jsessionid=D789BE90A1EEC6972A36FF6CDE1BE3EE?0

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Thank you -- I wondered the same thing, because the Barfields used St. Leonard's and St. John the Baptist for a couple of decades.  But, the register clearly says St. James'.

just to let you know www.geneanet.org
record says
Harriett Lavinia Barfield married in St John the Baptist Church , Shoreditch - not St James ...

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This is exciting!  Thank you!  Now to determine if she was "my" Winifred.  I found her at 1 Bellevue Avenue, Greenwich, in the 1943 Electoral Roll for Lane Cove. He was Postmaster.  I was unable to identify a method for searching by address to see who was at Winifred's Carlotta Street address in 1943 (another point in favor of confirmation).

Winnifred Patience GRIFFIN married 1942 in North Sydney to Richard EVANS

Winnifred Patience EVANS died 1978 NSW

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This is exciting!  Thank you!  Now to determine if she was "my" Winifred.  I found her at 1 Bellevue Avenue, Greenwich, in the 1943 Electoral Roll for Lane Cove. He was Postmaster.  I was unable to identify a method for searching by address to see who was at Winifred's Carlotta Street address in 1943 (another point in favor of confirmation).

Winnifred Patience GRIFFIN married 1942 in North Sydney to Richard EVANS

Winnifred Patience EVANS died 1978 NSW

Yes, she is yours. Her death record index gives correct names for parents.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Thank you for the suggestion.  My DNA results are uploaded pretty much everywhere.  But, Harriet Barfield was the sister of my great-great-grandfather.  If I have any DNA at all from the Barfields, the corresponding matches to Harriet's descendants would be in the negligible range.

TNGeneWhiz, if you are looking for living descendants of these ancestors, have you considered taking a DNA test?