Robert Hood & Elizabeth Watters, Sorn, Ayrshire

[MonicaL]

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"Robert natural son of Robert Hood collier Hunterfield, Gorebridge, near Edinburgh...."

I would suggest that this Robert may well lead you to the correct Robert.

His father, Alexander Hood, died in late December 1858 from a mining accident. His burial details here www.findagrave.com/memorial/201564126/alexander-harper-hood

Accident details:

Alexander Hood
Death 2 Dec 1858 Dalkeith, Mid Lothian
Occupation Collier
Colliery Arniston
Owner John Christie
Notes Fall of roof at face of workings. 2 killed.

On father Alexander's death registration, his residence is noted as Hunterfield (as showing in the paternity action against Robert Hood).

Monica

[SOFEE]

quote
"Robert natural son of Robert Hood collier Hunterfield, Gorebridge, near Edinburgh...."

I would suggest that this Robert may well lead you to the correct Robert.

His father, Alexander Hood, died in late December 1858 from a mining accident. His burial details here www.findagrave.com/memorial/201564126/alexander-harper-hood

Accident details:

Alexander Hood
Death 2 Dec 1858 Dalkeith, Mid Lothian
Occupation Collier
Colliery Arniston
Owner John Christie
Notes Fall of roof at face of workings. 2 killed.

On father Alexander's death registration, his residence is noted as Hunterfield (as showing in the paternity action against Robert Hood).

Monica

Hi Monica
thats looking very interesting indeed where you manage to get your info amazes me everyone on here is so knowledgeable now you said  "his residence is noted as Hunterfield (as showing in the paternity action against Robert Hood)". Huntersfield is in Midlothian and  Hurlford is where the paternity suit Robert was which is a village in East Ayrshire, according to google. so two different places 66miles between them one almost on eastcoast one almost on west coast. btw Ive paid to get the paternity document with more details etc

sofee

[MonicaL]

the only info I have is on the birth record of their son in Sorn Ayrshire ( CH3/409/2 416 )Irvine Relief...  which I have quoted below

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"Robert natural son of Robert Hood collier Hunterfield, Gorebridge, near Edinburgh & Elizabeth Watters, Stanecastle Gate, near Irvine. was born 15th December past (1853) and baptised twenty-fifth instant (June 1854) "

I am confused  The quote above is what you posted in your opening post. This you mention is from the Old Parish Register entry following Robert Jnr's birth and his baptism six months later.

From this entry in the OPRs, Robert Hood is shown as a collier from Hunterfield, Gorebridge, near Edinburgh and Elizabeth from Stanecastle Gate, near Irvine.

This is the why I was making the reference to Hunterfield.

Hurlford has only come on the link that Neale added earlier from 1851 www.scottishindexes.com/courtentry.aspx?courtid=7002026 highlighting a similar name and occupation. No indication so far that this Robert is linked to the Robert Snr in the OPRs in 1854 for your Robert Jnr.

Monica

[Neale1961]

Sofee, I see Monica has posted some good leads regarding Robert Hood collier of Hunterfield, Gorebridge, near Edinburgh -  and could be the one you are looking for.

In the 1861 census this Hood family is living in Hunterfield, although the 2 oldest boys, John and Robert appear to have left for the USA. The rest of the family follow them in 1864.

This is them in 1841
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a1517fbf4040b9d6e23cf5f/robert-hood-1841-midlothian-duddingston-1832-?locale=en


I only posted Robert Hood in Hurlford as a preliminary possibility - don't let him be a red herring.
On closer inspection, he stays within the Kilmarnock area for his entire life, and does not appear to have a connection with Hunterfield.

[Neale1961]

Sofee, It is quite probable that Robert Hood junior never knew his father - he only knew his name - and so he would make up any occupation for him on his marriage record.
I wouldn't take the "civil engineer" bit too seriously.
It was fairly normal for illegitimate children to be raised by the maternal side of the family.

[Neale1961]

A couple of other items:

1.   In my reply #14, I give details of the Robert Hood (junior) age 16 living with his Torrance uncles, in 1871.
If you get that census from Scotlands People – could you please post the details.


2.   Jane (Jean) TORRANCE / WATERS died 1866 Irvine (mother’s name Barclay) – age 64. (see my reply #16)   Does her death cert say if her husband John was alive or dead?

The only record I can find for John Waters, sailor is in the 1861 census. He is listed as:
 John Waters, able seaman, age 55, married, born Irvine Ayrshire, working onboard ‘City of Manchester’.
(Most of the men working onboard appear to have been born in Irvine)


3.   A suggestion to just use the green REPLY button rather than quote and re-post a great deal of information previous posted and already read, as this can create a thread which is cumbersome to negotiate.

[Neale1961]

A bit more detail for the Torrence family:-

James TORRENCE married 12/12/1800 Riccarton to Elisabeth BARCLAY

Children baptised:
•   James 14/6/1801 Riccarton
•   Jean 1/5/1804 Kilmarnock
•   John 11/9/1807 Kilmarnock
•   Andrew 27/1/1811 Loudoun
•   Adam 14/11/1813 Loudon
•   William 19/10/1818 Kilwinning
•   Robert 25/9/1822 Kilwinning

1841 census for Elizabeth (Barclay) Torrence – Kilwinning
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a142004f4040b9d6e09759f/john-torrence-1841-ayrshire-kilwinning-1811-?locale=en

Redburn Gate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Redburn_Gate_-_Eglinton_Estate.jpg

[SOFEE]

Hi Monica & Neale

wow thats a lot of information...I've studied all your findings and after thinking "no" about the Robert Hood family that went to U.S. I think your right, regarding that... just shows you shouldn't right things off too quickly.
 
sorry about the confusion earlier on it was me who picked up wrongly i thought you meant the Robert Hood in the paternity case and Alexander Hoods Son were one in the same but I read it wrongly hence I confused Monica and myself regards the Hurlford and hunterfield i thought you thought they were one in the same . also me clicking on the quote each time i answered i thought i was doing good making the relevant post to te quotes but instead i just caused confussion...as if this isnt all so confusing as it is  lol...you have booth come up trumps for me regarding my great great grandparents ...also the "civil Engineer" i think theres been either its been conjure up in son Roberts imagination or someone has read the info wrong over the years perhaps Coal Engine Keeper or even the place his family lived  called Arniston Engine could have   mistakenly been read as Civil Engineer? I guess well never know for sure . Im as sure as i can be that the info you collated between you is my ancestor so thanks to you both for your time involved in this search I do appreciate it thanks so much .

Sofee
 

[Neale1961]

Happy to have been of help, Sofee. I know how exciting it feels to finally solve a longstanding problem, and then be able to move further back in the family tree.
Let us know if we can help further.