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Finding ships passenger lists ?
« on: Friday 21 July 23 19:19 BST (UK) »

I am trying to gain sight of the cruise ship HMS Carmania that called at Nassau in December 1967 Could anybody how this might be done please?
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Re: Finding ships passenger lists ?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 July 23 21:18 BST (UK) »
As RMS Carmania was a Cunard cruise ship, might be best to contact Cunard themselves.

Originally built as RMS Saxonia in 1954, renamed Carmania in 1962.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Saxonia_(1954)

RMS = Royal Mail Ship
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Re: Finding ships passenger lists ?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 July 23 15:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the inspiration to contact Cunard. I have been trying to get sight of the list for ages, but, I suppose that you know how things are, one gets tired takes their eye off of the ball and it gets side tracked. I will have another look at what I have tried and try and get back with more info.
BTW the link not work.
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Re: Finding ships passenger lists ?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 July 23 15:26 BST (UK) »
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Re: Finding ships passenger lists ?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 July 23 15:54 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Nifty1 on Saturday 22 July 23 15:26 BST (UK)
Couldn’t have been
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Carmania_(1905)

The 1905 Carmania was scrapped in 1932!
So impossible for that ship to be in Nassau in 1967?
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Re: Finding ships passenger lists ?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 July 23 16:38 BST (UK) »
It seems that getting info  is complex
All I have been able to find out so far is that the 21,647 ton Salonica was built in 1954 and renamed the Carmania (2) one of three in 1963 which was resold to Russia in 1973 and renamed Leonid Sobinov.
And, judging by what I have found thus far stands very little chance of getting a reply and that  Cunard seems to be much more involved with responding to complaints and making bookings.

Can anybody suggest any novel search terms that might prove successful in getting hold of somebody at Cunard that is sympathetic to historic enquiries such as the one that I am making?
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Re: Finding ships passenger lists ?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 July 23 16:55 BST (UK) »
Passenger Lists kept by the UK Board of Trade were chiefly concerned with Trans-Atlantic crossings and longer journeys (South Africa, Australia, NZ for example.)
I'm not sure much info was kept on cruise ship passengers. But I could be wrong!

That's why I suggested Cunard.
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Re: Finding ships passenger lists ?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 July 23 16:58 BST (UK) »
GG Archives hold some lists, but only up to 1966.
https://www.ggarchives.com/OceanTravel/Passengers/Cunard/Inventory.html

Carmania 1912 to 1930.
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