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Has anyone any ideas - 2 burials of cholera victims.
« on: Sunday 23 July 23 12:50 BST (UK) »
This seems a weird one to me. Has anyone any ideas?
My 3xgtGrandfather William Stirrup died in Aug 8th 1849 in the Cholera Hospital, Vauxhall rd, Liverpool.The first mention of his burial I found years ago was for 7th Oct in St Martin in the Field CofE. I always thought that was a long time between death & burial especially for a Cholera victim. Today I found another record for him to say he'd been buried on the 9th August in St Mary's church RC,which I would have thought would be more feasable. Why is there a record for him at St Martins so long afterwards?  I noticed other people on the register as well - e.g. Christopher Judge who I also found but buried on the 15th Aug in St Anthonys RC. I also found another couple of records as well of people on the Oct one.
Plus I've no idea who Thos & Sarah are. He'd no children called either of those names, I think his father was called Thomas. If that was the correct one though he died in the 1830's.but I can't verify that other than a baptism in Warrington in 1813 to a Thomas & Alice Stirrup.
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Re: Has anyone any ideas - 2 burials of cholera victims.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 July 23 14:09 BST (UK) »
Is it possible that something happened to the first burial ground and the bodies were exhumed and reburied elsewhere?
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Re: Has anyone any ideas - 2 burials of cholera victims.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 July 23 15:11 BST (UK) »
What's the column heading for Thos & Sarah in the last image?

ADDED: Maybe there were mass burials from the cholera hospital without regard for the denomination of the deceased because of infection risk, then RCs were reburied in a catholic cemetery?
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Has anyone any ideas - 2 burials of cholera victims.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 July 23 15:15 BST (UK) »
I've no idea but surely they were terrified of infection barely 2 months after death from cholera & all the ones on the Oct register were cholera victims. They seem to have been buried at St Martins in October from a couple of different churches.

The column heading just says Remarks.


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Re: Has anyone any ideas - 2 burials of cholera victims.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 July 23 15:28 BST (UK) »
Is St Mary’s Cemetery a Catholic one? I don’t see that in the record.
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Re: Has anyone any ideas - 2 burials of cholera victims.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 July 23 15:31 BST (UK) »
Yes it is. He had his children baptised there, St Anthony's where Christopher Judge was buried first is also RC.

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Re: Has anyone any ideas - 2 burials of cholera victims.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 July 23 15:34 BST (UK) »
I've no idea but surely they were terrified of infection barely 2 months after death from cholera & all the ones on the Oct register were cholera victims.
I have read that cholera victims bodies were sometimes covered in pitch then covered in quicklime, so they may have been less anxious about infection risk after 2 months.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Has anyone any ideas - 2 burials of cholera victims.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 July 23 15:34 BST (UK) »
What's the column heading for Thos & Sarah in the last image?

ADDED: Maybe there were mass burials from the cholera hospital without regard for the denomination of the deceased because of infection risk, then RCs were reburied in a catholic cemetery?

He was first buried in a RC cemetery then buried in the C of E one later - as were most of the others on that register.

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Re: Has anyone any ideas - 2 burials of cholera victims.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 July 23 15:38 BST (UK) »
I don’t understand this but here is a Find a Grave record.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/223313124/william-stirrup

In the details it is noted: “ Death date listed may be the date of application”

I can’t see the ‘Thomas and Sarah’ note on the St Mary’s one I have found.
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