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finding my ancestors in cemetries
« on: Wednesday 08 November 23 02:59 GMT (UK) »

Hello
I am trying to find where my ancestors are buried in Wigtownshire.
James Johnston died 14 August 1882 at Bladnoch, Wigtownshire.
his wife Helen died 17 March 1898 at Wigtown, Wigtownshire.
Any other people with the same surname may also be part of my family tree.
Any info would be greatly appreciated. I don't live in Scotland
Thank you

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Re: finding my ancestors in cemetries
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 08:26 GMT (UK) »
Burial records for most cemeteries in Scotland are held by the local authorities.

Both Bladnoch and Wigtown are in Wigtownshire, which (since the reorganisations of local authorithes in the late 20th century) is now part of Dumfries and Galloway, so you will need to find out what arrangements Dumfries and Galloway Council have made for accessing those records.

Start with https://www.dumgal.gov.uk/article/24620/Collections-and-Records
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: finding my ancestors in cemetries
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 10:37 GMT (UK) »
This is my first response to a post on this site. Hopefully it may prove of some small help.

This refers to England but may also apply to Scotland also.
I've tried to visit the graves of relatives and have often found that there is no memorial stone but some cemeteries do show the layout of the graves in squares and grave number. I've been able to go the site of the grave and lay a flower there. As I'm sure you're aware if the grave is not maintained by relatives the stone may well deteriorate and in some instances may be laid down flat or moved to one side, especially if it becomes liable to fall over. The website Find my Grave has been useful to me in finding an ancestor's grave.

The attached picture is the grave of a relative, marked by the small flowers, estimated from the grave and square number from the cemetery records.

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Re: finding my ancestors in cemetries
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 December 23 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Sorry for long delay in posting reply.

A booklet of memorial inscriptions for the Wigtown Old Kirkyard (also known as St Machutus or Wigtown Parish Church) lists a James Johnston died 14 August 1882.  The inscription says he erected the stone in memory of several children, and then he himself is inscribed on it.  No mention of his wife though.
This is from a booklet published by Dumfries & Galloway Family History Society.  The Wigtownshire cemeteries are 26 booklets.  Each one contains an index by surname, but unfortunately there's no master index across all books, or by first name (as yet).  You have to buy the pdf booklet for the cemeteries of interest.
https://dgfhs.org.uk/product-category/memorial-inscriptions/wigtownshire/
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DGFHS are also doing a project to take photos of every headstone.

Yes FindaGrave is always worth a look, and other similar sites like billiongraves

Also the paid subscription sites if you have access to them (eg through a library...).  Ancestry has burial records for some cemeteries/some dates in a collection called "England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1800-2022".  It includes some from Dumfries & Galloway.  (Note some Kirkcudbright registers are incorrectly under Kincardineshire).  Can be best to browse a county rather than just search by name, to see what cemeteries and types of records are covered).
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/9041/

DGFHS is affiiliated with FindMyPast, and progressively making information available to them - memorial inscriptions and old parochial records.

You probably know of course that in those days name spellings varied, they weren't considered fixed like today.  When people spoke their names, the clerks might record what they thought they heard, spelt as they thought fit.

I visited Wigtown in 2022 (I live in New Zealand).  I found family graves and developed a real connection to the place.  Finding a specific grave in a cemetery can be tricky.  Some memorial inscription booklets have maps, some don't.   The Wigtown library has a plan of the graves in the Old Kirkyard, attached to one of the memorials books in their heritage section.  I also discovered 2 keen family historians in Wigtown who love to help visitors or enquirers from elsewhere. 
Scotland - Wigtown MCKIE FRASER, Glasgow ROGERSON KELLY CAMPBELL, Forres MURRAY BLACK ANDERSON MACKENZIE.
England - Croydon SPANSWICK STEVENS MANSER


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Re: finding my ancestors in cemetries
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 December 23 21:53 GMT (UK) »
thank you to all that replied