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Offline Miranda

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Portobello Barracks 1845
« on: Monday 27 November 23 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Hello all you military experts!  I am researching my 3x Great Grandfather Ernest Klussman born Hannover, Germany 1800ish.  In 1845, I have him down as being a Barrack Master in the 8th Hussars at Portobello Barracks in Dublin.  I am struggling to find any other info for him.  His son Ernest was born in the same place in 1845. Birth of son Ernest Klussman(1845–)
10 Jan 1845 • Portobello Barracks, Dublin, Ireland.  I would love to know more about this family. 
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Re: Portobello Barracks 1845
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 November 23 08:52 GMT (UK) »
Here is the transcription of the baptism of Ernest ‘Klushman’ 1845, father Ernest and Mother Georgina
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01stn/

Adelaide, born 1841, baptised the same day as Ernest
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sto/
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Re: Portobello Barracks 1845
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 November 23 09:00 GMT (UK) »
Is this Adelaide’s birth?
1841 December quarter Chorlton
Adelaide Klussman - mother McLaren
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Re: Portobello Barracks 1845
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 November 23 09:06 GMT (UK) »
Here is that family in 1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQG9-CY5
Ernest is a musician.
Is this your family?
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Re: Portobello Barracks 1845
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 November 23 09:24 GMT (UK) »
I can’t find military records which I know you are searching. However, I hope these bits help.
Ernest has a son, Henry, 4 yrs in 1841

1841 586/15/23 has Henry and Kate Klussman with two small children.
Henry, 40 yrs, born Foreign Parts is a Bandsmaster.
Kate is b Ireland. Maiden name Donn/Dann (perhaps Dunne or similar)?

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Is this Henry a brother to Ernest?
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Re: Portobello Barracks 1845
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 November 23 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if this is your man:

In 1881 "Ernest Klussmann" , widower, 76, no occupation given, born Hannover (British subject), is living with his son-in-law at 39 Bridge Street, Swindon.

In 1891, "Earnest Klusman", widower, 86, professor of music, born Hannover (British subject), is still living with his son-in-law, this time at 12 Somerleyton Road, Lambeth.

Wrexham Advertiser 18-3-1899:

KLUSSMAN - March 9th, aged 99 years, at the Queen's
Hotel, Oswestry, Ernest Klussman.

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Re: Portobello Barracks 1845
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 November 23 11:12 GMT (UK) »
Just wondering whether "barrack master" is a mistranscription of "band master".
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Re: Portobello Barracks 1845
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 November 23 12:37 GMT (UK) »
Ernest Klussman's daughter Adelaide was born in November 1841, in Dublin, per online trees. However there is a GRO record of the birth Adelaide Klussman in 4Q 1841 in Chorlton (Manchester).
Mother's maiden name McLaren.

8th Hussars were based in Manchester in November 1841 so that ties in.

There is a marriage in London in 1834 of Ernst Klussman and Mary Ann McLaren. But Ernest's wife in 1841 was Georgina.

It might well be worth checking that birth record!
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Re: Portobello Barracks 1845
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 November 23 12:39 GMT (UK) »
I see there was also an Ernest Klussman mmn McLaren born in St Pancras in 1843. (Same RD as death of Alice Catherine Klussman also in 1843).

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Baptism https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/1767719:1558

Parents Ernest & Mary Ann. Ernest a Professor of Music.
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