CHARLES GABRIEL THOMPSON

[Forfarian]

And in 1928 she marries Alexander Mouat. As it was in Scotland, even had she been a widow or divorced, she would have married under her maiden name Thompson.

Strictly speaking, if she was widowed or divorced her marriage should have been indexed under both her maiden and her previous married surnames.

The absence of a previous married surnames, plus the possible mis-spelling of her mother's surname and perhaps the invention of a middle name for her father, might imply that she was not being entirely truthful.

Maybe she was also lying when she said she was from Birmingham?

I wonder how she accounted to her new husband for Beatrice? And where was Beatrice when her mother and stepfather first travelled to Canada?

[AMBLY]

Hi Forfarian,

Reply#16 & #17
Beatrice travelled to Canada on the same date & ship as Alexander & Phillipia - stated as her parents - she was listed on a different page of the manifest, with her aunt, Eva Thompson.

The 1931 Canada Census states her (Beatrice)  as born Scotland, which may or may not be true 

Cheers
AMBLY

[paul_mc]

I think we are on to something.

Beatrice never ever had a copy of her own borth certificate - Or at least she said she didn't. There's obviously a story here.

[Neale1961]

Regarding Beatrice.
 We have conflicting birth dates on the 1939 register, and conflicting birth place (Birmingham and Scotland) in travel and census.
Forfarian has found Phoebe and husband Carrington in Edinburgh in 1922, so maybe the birth found by Ambly, under THOMSON surname in 1925 Newbattle is the one to look at first to see if that is correct. If not, then there is the other to try.

[paul_mc]

It's NOT the one born in Newbattle in 1925 as her mothers maiden name was Ramsey.

So it must be the other one

[Forfarian]

It's NOT the one born in Newbattle in 1925 as her mothers maiden name was Ramsey.

No, indeed it's not.

There is a death of a Beatrice Thomson, aged 74, in Glasgow in 2000, mmn Ramsay. However her other surname was Glendinning. Beatrice Glendinning married Duncan Thomson in Glasgow in 1949, and Beatrice Glendinning, mmn Ramsay, was born in Glasgow in 1925.

[Forfarian]

Forfarian has found Phoebe and husband Carrington in Edinburgh in 1922

No, I didn't.

They were in Hull, not Edinburgh.

[mckha489]

As to the address the MOUAT family returned to in 1936:

I can't find 13 Eaton Terrace and same, can only find this, which is outside of the Hoylake boundary on modern map:  Eaton Road, West Kirby, Wirral, Merseyside CH48.   On the maps, there can be seen nearby Devonport and Grosnevor Roads .   Murphy's Law or whatever it may be, but………..

Working backwards: 3 yrs later

13 Eaton Road, Birkenhead,  (Nearby streets were: Devonport, Grosnevor)
John Thompson  b 8 Apr 1883. Mixed General Shopkeeper
Harriet Thompson b 21 Jan 1881
John Thompson b 16 Mar 1914 General Labourer
Irene Thompson b 28 Apr 1921 (later Lewis) Shop Asst

I found a different 13 Eaton Road
And I am really sorry, I have a golf game so will have to get to this later if no one else does.

But meanwhile the husband was Frederick Taylor born 1883 and wife Elizabeth born 1888. There were several children.  Last night, I could not figure out who they were at all.  😀


John Thompson 23, Bachelor, Shop Assistant, of 84 St Arnaud St. Father: James Thompson, Grocer.

I don't know.............. 

Charles of Norway & Hull’s father was Thomas Thompson (on the marriage cert which is on FindMyPast )

[mckha489]

So - back from golf  , but not any further ahead.

the Eaton Road I found is at West Kirby and runs between Banks Road and Hilbre Road  parallel to Church Road.